A better argument would be asking how many TERA players there are all together, and how many of them have complained that they can't see elin panties on the forums. If it's over 50%, you may have something. In reality I bet it's around 1%.

Quote: Baratan on 05/03/2012, 11:35 AM

Quote: Crumplecorn on 05/03/2012, 11:30 AM

Who said this is the case?

"Acceptable "statement: Evil western civilization is too immature and childish to handle scantily clad Elin.

"Unacceptable" Statement: Evil eastern civilization is too perverted and outlandish to better cover Elin.

Westernization is treated as a dirty word and appeal to western society is treated as a filthy act while Easternization and appeal to eastern society are treated as steps towards godliness.

The first describes restriction, the second, freedom.

Why would we want to treat both statements the same way?

This reminds me of a discussion of how asking for removal of censorship isn't censorship itself. Was that you?

I'll add on the fact that that's the mindset of a VERY small minority, and back out for now cause I lol'd but I've spent enough time here, they obviously have a lot of time to spend arguing something that's not going to change and doesn't really affect anyone either way with it being such a tiny triviality. They'll counter anything, feel "godly" and yet the only way they would "win" is if EME agreed with thier 1%, which it doesn't seem to. They can fill up the forums all they want, maybe get a change, but probably not and if they unsub because of it, yay. EMEs profit margins won't be affected by it and as much as they whine I doubt they'll unsub because they know themselves it's a tiny irrelevant thing. Seacrest out.

Excuse me while I try to be logical in the midst of this:

Leaving the Elin as they were in Korea made zero good business sense. American media sensationalizing everything, and all it would have taken was one right wing pundit or conservative Christian talking head to bring the small company on EnMasse down. Have you not seen how things in popular culture can get boycotted in America, leading to civil suits, bad press, risk aversion on the side of developers to have Enmasse publish their games. You are all thinking like internet children, and not like the people trying to start and grow a business. The potential backlash could have been crushing.

Ultimitly, you are talking about something that could have shut Tera down, as well as Enmasse. Those are job, people, lives, and careers you are talking about. Please try to maintain some perspective.

What matters isn't the people who are unaffected, it's those who will complain about one vs those who will complain about the other.

An illustration of my point exactly.

An illustration of my point exactly.

Quote: Crumplecorn on 05/03/2012, 11:43 AM

What matters isn't the people who are unaffected, it's those who will complain about one vs those who will complain about the other.

I agree 100%. Where we differ is on the numbers in each group. I maintain that there are more people in the group who would be deterred by the old models than there are in the group that (A) know about the change at all and (B) are upset by it. Agree to disagree.

And if you're playing enough to ding 30 you can't hate the game that much. ;)

Just show them a picture of both before and after censorship and ask them which armor looks better. If the majority points out the old armors, then there we have it, old armors were better.

Best choice might be one of those with bellys covered, to make the changes the most obvious.

I'm not sure I understand. If fifty people hate the change and quit, and 100 people don't mind the change and join up, EME is on the right track. They will always go with what gives them the best shot at success. The real question is why anyone bought the game in the first place if they didn't like the product being sold.