It's often a snap judgement. If you just run by and the person dies, then you get hateful whispers going 'way to just run by and not do anything ********'. If you help and misjudge, you get yelled at for helping.

Personally, I'd rather someone think I was well-intentioned but a bit slow than I would have them think I'm a hateful d-bag. Now, I doubt a sleeping mob would set off my own personal 'danger' alarms, but different people have varying levels of perception. So I missed quest credit...that's okay -- here's a player who's nice enough to help. That is rare enough that I may just want to know a little bit more about them. Quest credit is easy enough to get.

So, first off, this is not a post to cause any flame wars or anything, I just simply want to try and understand something here.

So me (Sorc) and a mystic are fighting a BAM, it is lower level then us by a little and we are doing fine on it. We duo BAMs all the time, we know how to work together and if we can't duo it, we get a group. Simple. Anyway, we are killing this BAM and I go to use my rotation of root, sleep and fireblast when along comes someone, outside of the group that decides to attack the BAM and break the sleep on it and get me knocked over in the middle of my fireblast. Mystic gets a bit pissed, guy says he was only trying to help.

Fine, I get the fact that there are some helpful people out there and that is wonderful, I like to help out people myself, but how does someone get the idea in their head that someone needs help on a BAM fight? You can't see their health so obviously you can't say "omg! that person is dieing, I better help!"

Honestly there are many people out there that will attack your mobs outside group to be pricks and so when you do something like that, with the intent to "help" the only thing it looks like, at least to me, is you being a prick. Especially when something is clearly sleeping and you break it.

Like I said it is a great thing to want to be helpful, but I'm wondering, to those of you that have ever done this, where is the logic in it? Why do you do this? I am really trying to understand. Can't you just type in chat and ask if people need help first? Cause I'm sure if they do, they will invite you.

I just see so many people do this and sometimes they do it to be mean and other times they say they are trying to help when it wasn't even needed. I've lost credit for quests cause people just wanted to "help".

I just had to post this, maybe someone can shed some light for me or then again, maybe not :)

Quote: Calypso on 05/27/2012, 05:50 PM

It's often a snap judgement. If you just run by and the person dies, then you get hateful whispers going 'way to just run by and not do anything ********'. If you help and misjudge, you get yelled at for helping.

Personally, I'd rather someone think I was well-intentioned but a bit slow than I would have them think I'm a hateful d-bag. Now, I doubt a sleeping mob would set off my own personal 'danger' alarms, but different people have varying levels of perception. So I missed quest credit...that's okay -- here's a player who's nice enough to help. That is rare enough that I may just want to know a little bit more about them. Quest credit is easy enough to get.

Yeah, I get what you are saying there. Although, more often then not, they won't even say anything and run off after they have killed something of yours and so, you're sitting there thinking "ok, was this person just being a prick or did he really think he was being helpful?" Sadly, since there are a lot of, not so nice people, I tend to think that it's someone being mean, Maybe that is my own problem for having so little faith in humanity.

I completely agree with you. I have had the same thing happen to me multiple times and in at least two of those occasions, the mob was for a quest and I didn't get credit for the quest because apparently the people who decided to "help" me did more damage than me. It is VERY aggravating. I would rather people NOT help me unless I ask for it. Sure, quest credit is easy to get, as Calypso stated, but that's not the point. I shouldn't have to do the whole thing over again because of someone who feels that I need their "help". They sure don't stick around to "help" when I have to kill the mob over again.

Quote: Kairi920 on 05/27/2012, 05:55 PM

Quote: Calypso on 05/27/2012, 05:50 PM

It's often a snap judgement. If you just run by and the person dies, then you get hateful whispers going 'way to just run by and not do anything ********'. If you help and misjudge, you get yelled at for helping.

Personally, I'd rather someone think I was well-intentioned but a bit slow than I would have them think I'm a hateful d-bag. Now, I doubt a sleeping mob would set off my own personal 'danger' alarms, but different people have varying levels of perception. So I missed quest credit...that's okay -- here's a player who's nice enough to help. That is rare enough that I may just want to know a little bit more about them. Quest credit is easy enough to get.

Yeah, I get what you are saying there. Although, more often then not, they won't even say anything and run off after they have killed something of yours and so, you're sitting there thinking "ok, was this person just being a prick or did he really think he was being helpful?" Sadly, since there are a lot of, not so nice people, I tend to think that it's someone being mean, Maybe that is my own problem for having so little faith in humanity.

I hadn't encountered this until yesterday...when I was trying out a sorcerer and a berserker ran over and wiped the pigs I was fighting. When he did it the second time, I blocked and reported him...it's one thing to help with a BAM...it's entirely another to "help" when mobs couldn't kill you unless you were AFK for a long break.