USE THE MOTES!

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LoL cute stories.

My Lancer BF rolled a Slayer last weekend. My main being a Sorc, I would whine about Mystics in dungeons who didn't drop motes at all and how much it sucked as a Sorc. He'd laugh.
Now though, he's all "omg where's the mana balls??" Me: "Hun, I'm only level 20, I can't make them yet". Him: "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO /cries in corner".

For bizarre though - I have seen the melee that stand in front of the boss, oh yes. Getting trappled left and right, having to spam heal them. Yet, there they stand.

The most bizarre thing I have *ever* seen though - and this doesn't have anything to do with healing but I was on my Mystic at the time - one Slayer guy would just walk off in the middle of fights to go stand by the campfire. In the middle of BOSS FIGHTS. He'd just disappear, and I'd find him at the edge of the room, standing by the campfire. He'd come back after a minute or 2, then fight for a minute, then go back to the fire. WTH.
Edited by: SeraElf 12 months ago
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Cede on 06/07/2012, 08:55 AM - view
It's surprising how many people I group with that don't use the mystic's motes, or rarely use them. They just sit there, staring at their cds or wtvr they're doing, eating all the hits from the boss/bam, getting the good ol' purple health bar and just continuing their dps waiting for a cleanse. Or maybe they're almost oom and there's a blue skittle right next to them, yet they just wander off scared or stand there like a derp. I really don't get it... People need to pay attention! This isn't WoW! lul...


As a Lancer, I would be stupid not to actively use these for health and mana. It's free mitigation and helps me keep using my skills.
jeepguy Profile Options #23

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I too always wind up feeling awkward and silly when I tumble towards a mote, run to grab it and... whoops, the Mystic was already healing me.
Kunae Profile Options #24

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SeraElf on 06/07/2012, 09:04 AM - view
Kunae on 06/07/2012, 08:58 AM
Use your cures.

It has amazed me when I've run across Mystics who expect you to find, move to and use vitae motes to cure adverse effects, rather than casting the cure while you're continuing to dps.


Do you know that Mystics can't cure more than 2 people at once unless we glyph for it? So if 3 people are debuffed, one of you might die before I can do 2 sweeps. I drop motes right next to people. Hit "F". Motes aren't a Mystic's lazy way of healing, they ARE a way of healing. Lock on heals are limited too.


I should specify, I DO use my cure. I don't expect people to go for motes for initial cure. But again, locks are limited. Why stand there and die rather than hit 1 single key? TERA isn't the game for lazy DPS who just stand there and expect people to heal them through the stupidity they do. Half the times they are debuffed it's their own fault, heh.


Note: I specifically said I was amazed when I ran across such mystics. The OP was implying that that motes were the only way he was going to heal your adverse effects. I have run across 1 or 2 mystics, in-game, who behaved in that fashion.

About a third of the mystics I've run across have only used one or the other methods of healing. They either heal/cure only via lock-on(the majority of the encounters), or they virtually never use lock-on heals and NEVER use lock-on cures, expecting you to grab motes for that.

Mystics have a good blend of support skills, and should use them all, as appropriate.
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I was in a group of 4 yesterday taking on the big baddies in the mines. During the fight, one of the dpsers refused to pick up motes and twice he got close to dying due to a bad placement and my needing to keep up heals on the tank and the archer. Of course I was able to keep everyone alive, but the most frustrating thing was: I was four levels above the others. While I was forced to keep an eye on the dps who was taking obscene damage from the mob's front skills (instead of moving), I could have been hitting the mob with a great deal of damage and we'd have taken him down much faster. I told them all before the fight that I would place the balls and laid them out before the fight.

I asked, after the fight, why the dps didn't grab a ball, and I was told by the tank (who must have known him), "cause he's cool like that", or something to that effect. I reminded them that had they taken the time to hit one keypress and healed rather than forcing me to reposition constantly to keep my eye on the dps who kept taking tons of damage, I could have helped down the mob quickly. The response? "Oh, ya, there's that."

If a person is refusing to use everything at their disposal to keep a fight going smoothly, then they are not playing their character as well as they could. They are also ensuring that other players in the party are not enjoying the fight as much as they could. I thought parties were a team sport.

For clarification: I heal and cure during fights. Always! The balls are in addition to my skills. I use everything I have.
Edited by: PCPrincess 12 months ago - Reason: Clarifiication
SeraElf Profile Options #26

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Kunae on 06/07/2012, 09:48 AM - view


Note: I specifically said I was amazed when I ran across such mystics. The OP was implying that that motes were the only way he was going to heal your adverse effects. I have run across 1 or 2 mystics, in-game, who behaved in that fashion.

About a third of the mystics I've run across have only used one or the other methods of healing. They either heal/cure only via lock-on(the majority of the encounters), or they virtually never use lock-on heals and NEVER use lock-on cures, expecting you to grab motes for that.

Mystics have a good blend of support skills, and should use them all, as appropriate.


Ahh, gotchas. I guess I read the OP differently because I relate to the class, lol. I didn't realize that some Mystics won't cleanse with lock-on, that's ridiculous.

I basically view my motes as extensions of myself - backups - for when I can't immediately be there or be there fast enough, players have the option to take care of themselves in my "absence". Because our "limitations" are real though, imo DPS shouldn't get in the habit of depending on the Mystic 100% of the time, when their motes are available. I do believe that some people just don't know our lock-on limitations, thus viewing us using motes as laziness. Which is funny, since placement of motes takes up some time and effort (and mana). But others just don't care and refuse to be proactive. Or even reactive, hell. Stubbornness maybe? Too used to not needing to be in other MMOs? Dunno.
Kunae Profile Options #27

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Something that I find annoying, when playing my mystic, are the people who won't give me 15 seconds before starting a boss fight, to drop some motes around. Not always possible, in some encounters, but for those that you can, it's really helpful.

Folks don't seem to realize that dropping motes, in combat, generates aggro the same as if you were making a heal. If mystics are able to "pre-mote" an encounter, they almost never draw aggro during, even with a sub-par tank.
bakimono Profile Options #28

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You know, on my mystic I make it a point to be constantly placing 2-3 motes at the *feet* of other group mates as well as making rings around the encounter so even during repositionings there should be a mote within 10m of any of the players in the group, save for times when the group is actually steadily using them or I happen to be down.

I actually make it a point to over-mote so if I do go down the group does not wipe, and if I can't get a heal / cleanse in time a *good* player can take care of themselves in a pinch. That being said, if I go to the effort to place them and I see someone die right on top of them repeatedly (and not using them) I let them stay dead until it's convenient to pick them up. If a dps keeps acting like an idiot and putting on the blinders to dish out damage, I just let them die rather than risk the group wiping over it.

You can make whatever comments you like about my ability to play mystic, in a group that actually takes advantage of the mechanics of the game everyone generally stays topped off and it's really extremely rare the group wipes.

P.S. someone made a comment about dropping motes causing aggro... red motes *do* create aggro when dropping them more or less the same as a heal however *using* them does not. A really great way for mystics to deal with that mechanic to to lay a nest or ring before big boss fights to prep for a tough battle. Also note it can often be a nice "derp guard" to make a nice nest of motes in case there is a big mistake early on in the fight to give people a chance to grab heals in case you (as a healer) dies early on in the fight. Blue motes, however, create no aggro but please... for the love of all that is holy don't cast then eat your own blue pills in an effort to increase your spot mana regen, it is inefficient and you'll get less mana than just letting it tick up (however if you set up a bunch ahead of time not being used / about to rot by all means pop them, just the act of casting them to eat them borks you)
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Kunae on 06/07/2012, 08:58 AM - view
Use your cures.



It has amazed me when I've run across Mystics who expect you to find, move to and use vitae motes to cure adverse effects, rather than casting the cure while you're continuing to dps.


Lets look past the fact that
A) Cure has a cooldown
B) It has between 2-3 max targets and it seems as though its never only 2 who get debuffed
C) Motes heal AND cure
D) Idiots run back and forth in the way of heals and cures CONSTANTLY Causing you to miss your intended target(s)
E) If theres a sorc in the group. YOU CANT SEE [filtered] EVER AT ALL when trying to heal.
F) Real talk
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I would eat skittles if I got a group with a damn mystic.

I like them more as a sorc due to the crit buff. I don't roll amazing crystals.

3x 5.4% damage to boss 1x 1.38 crit damage to bosses from back.

then a 25 crit rate scroll always up on bosses.... and with a mystic i crit OFTEN and mana motes keep me up on mana....