[Video] Why Player (pet) shops MUST be removed

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BlackFox on 03/20/2012, 07:39 PM - view
i can set up a shop to buy the item i need have it set to buy the 10 i need and i go farm mobs for them anyway i accomplish two things at once and if i buy all 10 through the shop any that i get off farming i can sell to other people


Wouldn't it be easier just to integrate this into the AH itself? Then EVERY SINGLE ITEM being sold/sought after would be in ONE location. Rather than many. I don't see the point in going from player shop, to player shop, to find something, when I could just buy it from the AH kiosk, and save myself a possible 30+ minutes to accomplish a simple task.

If the reason people are so opposed to this, is because they want to be able to "buy things" from other players while they're out doing other things, just make it an option added to the AH. It would make getting what you seek, even more easy then. Since the entire game server will be looking in that one specific location, rather than city hopping and crossing their fingers.

But I have a feeling a lot of it is that people just like the way the shops look, and not as much the functionality, or maybe a bit of both. But, that's my opinion, lol.

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xTACx on 03/20/2012, 07:45 PM - view
...that works both ways. Though I don't agree 60% to really be a majority (I consider it to be a little over half the player base...coulda' just as soon been 50/50 which meant it needed work, not to be kept the same or to be completely removed. The middle ground needed to be met.) I think it's safe to say that there is no better way of calculating the wants of the community. What else are they going to do? Go door to door to ask about Tera's shop system?


That too. I think the bottom line is, some people just like to argue.
*shrugs*

Speaking of, the word "majority" by very definition means "numbering more than half the total" ;)
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Destian on 03/20/2012, 07:50 PM - view

What I don't understand is this: if people who are in favor of player shops are so quick to advise everyone to turn them off, WHO do they expect to buy from theirs?!


QFT, I've been wondering this exact same thing.
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Destian on 03/20/2012, 07:50 PM - view
xTACx on 03/20/2012, 07:45 PM
...that works both ways. Though I don't agree 60% to really be a majority (I consider it to be a little over half the player base...coulda' just as soon been 50/50 which meant it needed work, not to be kept the same or to be completely removed. The middle ground needed to be met.) I think it's safe to say that there is no better way of calculating the wants of the community. What else are they going to do? Go door to door to ask about Tera's shop system?


It would work both ways except that people who feel strongly on a subject are always the ones more likely to vote.

What I don't understand is this: if people who are in favor of player shops are so quick to advise everyone to turn them off, WHO do they expect to buy from theirs?!

I think people just don't want to compete with AH prices, and as usual, that argument is masquerading as a different one...


Exactly...


People still using the "you could just turn them off" argument are hilarious.

Yeah, turning them off doesn't automatically put the tens of thousands of items in them into the AH, it keeps them out, splitting the game economy and causing fps issues/immersion loss for anyone who is forced to use them to buy something that is not in the AH or reasonably priced due to pet shops.

Even if you like them, they still split the economy, which isn't really a good thing.
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xTACx on 03/20/2012, 07:45 PM - view


...that works both ways. Though I don't agree 60% to really be a majority (I consider it to be a little over half the player base...


Technically, that is the definition of a majority.

But back to the topic at hand. I think the buy feature of pet shops are probably one of the strongest reason to -keep- them in the game. Streamlining the ability to search through the pet shops might be a good addition to help players sort them out, but with the ability to turn them off, I can't see how anyone can complain about them being an eyesore.

The option exists to remove them from view.

Another proponent of pet shops is that they are often set up in areas outside of a major city and have loot/items appropriate to that area. So instead of having to go to Velika to search through shops, or going to the AH and not being able to find said gear or items I need. I have the option to go to the closest town and see if any of the player shops have that item available.

It's not the prettiest system in the world but it is a system that has functioned well in many other games. Again, I would definitely be a proponent of limiting it to a buy feature but keeping the pet shops in game.
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If they added a WTB feature to the AH, would people still want the pets?
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Exactly...


People still using the "you could just turn them off" argument are hilarious.

Yeah, turning them off doesn't automatically put the tens of thousands of items in them into the AH, it keeps them out, splitting the game economy and causing fps issues/immersion loss for anyone who is forced to use them to buy something that is not in the AH or reasonably priced due to pet shops.

Even if you like them, they still split the economy, which isn't really a good thing.


Valid point. Sure, I can turn it off. And then once I can't find the item I seek, I have to turn the thing back on just so I can look for one item? It's a waste of time, and as the poster said, "they split the economy". Not to mention it breaks immersion. I mean, does it mention the little creatures that are selling these items ANYWHERE in the Lore? It just seems a little "Hello Kitty" for my taste (but don't get me wrong, Hello Kitty is Kawaii :P)
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I, personally, find it more immersive to sell my own items as if I was the merchant. I, personally, think that an auction house is the easy way out of finding what you're looking for and for that reason it is bound to have slightly higher prices than a personal merchant. Do I think tons of shops in a town/city square are an eyesore? ...yes. Do I think something needs to be done about it? ...yes. Do I think it needs to be completely removed? ...no. My singular opinion does not matter, though. If they remove it, no biggie. If it's decided, due to popular request or whatever, to be brought back it will need to be worked on.

(...and yes, I know what "majority" means by definition, lol. What I was getting at is that such a close percentage should mean it shouldn't have gone to either extreme...it shoulda' met in the middle somewhere.)
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The best suggestion I saw was just to make pet stores reference what you have on auction (or a subset of), and leave the buy functionality as is. That way people can turn them off without feeling like they're missing out of anything, and players who like them can still set them up in areas where there is no auctioneer.

Destian on 03/20/2012, 07:58 PM
If they added a WTB feature to the AH, would people still want the pets?


Yes.
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diode on 03/20/2012, 08:00 PM - view
Destian on 03/20/2012, 07:58 PM
If they added a WTB feature to the AH, would people still want the pets?


Yes.


WHY?!?!?