I get that your helping but spreading rumors wont help. it just fans the flames
as of yet, nothing has been announced to change for the warrior patch's skill setup.
so dont expect any changes.
I hope you realize half the lancers reading the forums will only see that part. after all they only saw the warrior part of the patch preview, they cant even tell you what they are getting.
I don't like the idea that warriors are the only class in the game that have a role option. If they have an option, the other classes should too, or at least some of the other classes. Or if the other classes don't have an option, warriors shouldn't either. It's only fair. I mean when warriors have block they're going to be living it up. They'll queue as tank to receive instant queues to make their lives much easier, and on top of that, when they pvp they can switch to a dps pvp build and rape some face. This is a great opportunity that a lancer will never experience. And I definitely don't like the idea of a dps warrior using dodge and block in pvp. Guess I'll just have to see for myself how OP it is when it comes out. The main point is though, they have an option, dps or tank. No other class has an option. That's pretty unbalanced. Anyone's thoughts on this?
How do you mean? Like, my Healer/Damager Zerker?
Warriors are unique because they get the ability to switch back and forth. Their skills make them incredibly skill-intensive, which means a great warrior is deserving of the praise he/she receives, not because the class itself is overpowered.
My sister's Mystic actually ran with me in our two-damagers, two-healers model for a rather fun NecroTomb run, in which she operated as a damage-dealer for the whole fight. We had a Warrior tank, and it was a blast. One doesn't need role switching to switch up how these classes operate in the game, one merely needs to not use the dungeon finder and run in a pre-made. That way, everyone's on the same page.
Ideally Zerkers should have the option to off-tank, at the least. give them a parry and a riposte in addition to axe-block.
My main is a warrior, and I'm loving it, but even I see the hilarity of being the only true hybrid in the entire game.
Mystic would count as one as well if their DPS were higher and they had more offensive options or a DPS pet that didn't immediately die. Priests could almost spec for damage, but their DPS is too low as well...
I don't like the idea that warriors are the only class in the game that have a role option. If they have an option, the other classes should too, or at least some of the other classes. Or if the other classes don't have an option, warriors shouldn't either. It's only fair. I mean when warriors have block they're going to be living it up. They'll queue as tank to receive instant queues to make their lives much easier, and on top of that, when they pvp they can switch to a dps pvp build and rape some face. This is a great opportunity that a lancer will never experience. And I definitely don't like the idea of a dps warrior using dodge and block in pvp. Guess I'll just have to see for myself how OP it is when it comes out. The main point is though, they have an option, dps or tank. No other class has an option. That's pretty unbalanced. Anyone's thoughts on this?
It's only unbalanced if they can do both at once. A hybrid class can be balanced. Hybrid SPECS cannot. If players truly feel it's unfair that Warriors get two different roles, the only change I would support is tying certain glyphs to the different stances (like having +damage glyphs only apply while in Assault Stance, and certain defensive glyphs only apply while in Defensive Stance.)
Not that I think even that is needed. Currenlty, at end-game a Warrior doesn't have enough glyph points to be viable at both tanking and DPS at the same time, and they have to reglyph again for PvP. Warriors also aren't going to stay competitive as a tank using gear with DPS stats on it, or stay competitive as DPS using gear with tanking stats on it. They can perform in multiple roles, but at a cost to them, in the form of reglyphing every time they switch roles, and acquiring multiple sets of gear.
-Travail.
try not to misunderstand. you see, the "unbalance" that i mention isnt to say warrior are op or any more or less effective in pve or pvp than any other class. the fact that they can choose between 2 roles can or cannot be looked at as a plus side in any given situation. but no matter how u look at it, it is definitely a convenience, and a luxury that other classes should have available to them as well. maybe not every class, but at least more than just 1. im sure many would agree with me.
dont get me wrong, im not saying that warriors should be nerfe or their tanking capabilities taken away, im simply saying that other classes should be awarded some options too. i mean cmon...
8 classes. 7 out of 8 are stuck like chuck in their role. warriors have an option. there should be at least one ranged class that has an option as well. something like that would make more sense to me.
i understand that some players prolly dont want an option. they have their role and they want to stick to it. those players can pick wtvr class they want, but some players like to change things up as they play to keep it fresh. melee players like this can roll warrior. but what about a ranged player who like change? guess theyre [filtered] outta luck kus all ranged and all melee side from warrior have 1 role, take it or leave it
i think the game would be much more interesting and fun than it already is if more players had the option to change the scenery here and there
What? So you're saying sorcerers should have the ability to tank?
You're speaking out of your [filtered]
i said some other classes, not all classes. l2read
If the game lasts long enough, they will add more abilities and probably different 'specs' for other classes. Some will always be stuck into DPS or Tank or Heal.
Lancer will probably never get a DPS stance, but they will probably get some buffs to their damage through numbers or new skills.
Priest will probably never get any DPS, but will get a similar treatment to Lancer.
Slayer, Sorc and Archer will probably always stay DPS but have many more glyphs introduced to change up how you deal that damage.
Who knows if they are going to change Mystic back to more a damage/support or Zerk to tank/dps, but seriously? Whining that a Warrior can choose to reglyph and tank or DPS?
This a joke?
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH this class can do two things, but they can't do it both at once. WAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH, they have to respec and change crystals and do so much less damage or tank so much worse if they choose one or the other. WAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH. Queue times are to long, but lets not allow Warriors to tank.
Grow up, kids. This isn't WoW. If they don't add 'dual spec' to any other class then role a Warrior or stfu. The description, AT THE START OF CLOSED BETA ALL THE WAY TO OPEN BETA HAS SHOWN THAT WARRIORS CAN TANK OR DPS. The time to complain has long passed.
The only complaint that even I have is the block. I understand why they are adding, but it kind kills the whole idea of 'evasion tank'.
Once again, grow up.
obviously u play warrior. and obviously ur 3 years old. and obviously u have no fukking idea what we're talking about in this thread. move along now little child
seriously is this the twilight zone?! does more than 30% of the ppl reading this thread even know wtf its about?! ive never seen this many ppl with half a brain on one thread before. before you post, please, for your own sake, make sure u know what is being said in this thread before u put out some ignorant comment about sorc tanking or us complaining about warriors being op kus they can tank and dps. no one is complaining, and no one is even remotely implying that warriors are op. i refuse to insult my intelligence by explaining it again. if u dont get it, then i guess u just dont get it
obviously u play warrior. and obviously ur 3 years old. and obviously u have no fukking idea what we're talking about in this thread. move along now little child
seriously is this the twilight zone?! does more than 30% of the ppl reading this thread even know wtf its about?! ive never seen this many ppl with half a brain on one thread before. before you post, please, for your own sake, make sure u know what is being said in this thread before u put out some ignorant comment about sorc tanking or us complaining about warriors being op kus they can tank and dps. no one is complaining, and no one is even remotely implying that warriors are op. i refuse to insult my intelligence by explaining it again. if u dont get it, then i guess u just dont get it
Everyone knows what you are talking about, and all you are doing is complaining. WAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH THIS CLASS CAN CHOOSE TO DPS OR TANK.
WAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH THIS PERSON CALLED ME OUT ON BEING A CRYING LITTLE BABY. WAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.
I do play Warrior. I also play an archer @ 60 and a Mystic @ 60.
Go cry somewhere else or roll a Warrior.
For added effect, WAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH BOO HOO WAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Grow up, honestly. This game doesn't have another class that has 'dual spec', yet. As I said before, if the game lasts long enough they will probably add it to other classes, because it will be easier than making an entirely new class and they will pass it off as 'new content'.
What's even worse is how you aren't complaining about balance. Balance is a legit complaint, you are whining about 'choice'.
I don't like the idea that warriors are the only class in the game that have a role option. If they have an option, the other classes should too, or at least some of the other classes. Or if the other classes don't have an option, warriors shouldn't either. It's only fair. I mean when warriors have block they're going to be living it up. They'll queue as tank to receive instant queues to make their lives much easier, and on top of that, when they pvp they can switch to a dps pvp build and rape some face. This is a great opportunity that a lancer will never experience. And I definitely don't like the idea of a dps warrior using dodge and block in pvp. Guess I'll just have to see for myself how OP it is when it comes out. The main point is though, they have an option, dps or tank. No other class has an option. That's pretty unbalanced. Anyone's thoughts on this?
You need to chill, and calm down, the language might even close the thread. Do you really need to insult a sapposed three year old?
You used the term OP and unballanced, not anyones fault if they assume you meant Warriors OP
http://tera.enmasse.com/classes/
Thats right the classes as listed. Released well before Open Beta and they already let you know about the Dual Roles.
This thread represents the small Minority of Forum members and Game Players who cry about the unfairness. not to be rude. Mostly lancers, well you need to realize that everyone else accepts it, blue hole isnt going to change it so there is no use in crying. go ahead and start a warrior class unfair club or even a guild.
Blue hole made the class this way, they wont change it because a small group of NA players are sad, they would sooner take the subscription hit. Warriors have downsides and are Only SUSTAINED DPS
the gap between a slayer and a Warriors DPS is huge, they only out do Beserkers because of the burst a beserker does. thus Lower the whole Damage Per Second. there not the best tanks, nor are they the best DPS or PVPers. and the reason you even cry about them is laughable..
I am not saying your not entitled to your opionion. but let it go man, its over
I don't like the idea that warriors are the only class in the game that have a role option. If they have an option, the other classes should too, or at least some of the other classes. Or if the other classes don't have an option, warriors shouldn't either. It's only fair. I mean when warriors have block they're going to be living it up. They'll queue as tank to receive instant queues to make their lives much easier, and on top of that, when they pvp they can switch to a dps pvp build and rape some face. This is a great opportunity that a lancer will never experience. And I definitely don't like the idea of a dps warrior using dodge and block in pvp. Guess I'll just have to see for myself how OP it is when it comes out. The main point is though, they have an option, dps or tank. No other class has an option. That's pretty unbalanced. Anyone's thoughts on this?
You need to chill, and calm down, the language might even close the thread. Do you really need to insult a sapposed three year old?
You used the term OP and unballanced, not anyones fault if they assume you meant Warriors OP
http://tera.enmasse.com/classes/
Thats right the classes as listed. Released well before Open Beta and they already let you know about the Dual Roles.
This thread represents the small Minority of Forum members and Game Players who cry about the unfairness. not to be rude. Mostly lancers, well you need to realize that everyone else accepts it, blue hole isnt going to change it so there is no use in crying. go ahead and start a warrior class unfair club or even a guild.
Blue hole made the class this way, they wont change it because a small group of NA players are sad, they would sooner take the subscription hit. Warriors have downsides and are Only SUSTAINED DPS
the gap between a slayer and a Warriors DPS is huge, they only out do Beserkers because of the burst a beserker does. thus Lower the whole Damage Per Second. there not the best tanks, nor are they the best DPS or PVPers. and the reason you even cry about them is laughable..
I am not saying your not entitled to your opionion. but let it go man, its over
wth are you talking about? lul half of what u just said didnt make any sense. apparently u are one of those ppl who have no idea whats going on in this thread. and yes, i said unbalanced, because thats what it is. warriors have the convenience and luxury to switch roles, whether it be on the fly or not doesnt matter. no one else can switch roles. a slayer is always dps, a priest is always healer. how is it balanced that theres 8 classes and only 1 of them have the option for another role? maybe balanced isnt the right word to use, dunno, but i think it would be better if at least one ranged class had an option between heals/dps like mystic for example. ive already explained this in previous posts so im not going to again. like i said, if u dont get it, then u dont get it. and yes i called someone a 3 year old because of his ridiculous post. if u act like a fool on a thread, ur going to be treated like a fool
and who are you anyway? the forum police? and rly why is everyone getting so defensive over warriors lul? no one is picking on warriors or complaining that theyre op in any way. when i said OP in my original post, i was saying "i guess ill see how OP the block is when it comes out". so it might not be op at all, ill have to see. seriously l2read before u post 5 paragraphs of ignorant nonsense on a thread that ur completely in the dark to. a few of u that posted actually understood what was going on and put some ligit opinions out on the matter. i would love to see more of those. those posts are the ones that get those wheels spinning in the minds of the developers
