Quote: FiachSidhe on 05/20/2012, 11:30 PM

No offense but end game in WoW, and SWTOR was pretty much the same damn thing, minus the enchanting.

Run one of three possible raids, over and over until you get the BIS items.
When you're not doing that, you run dailies to get money for repairs and raiding buff food.

Pretty much most modern mmorpgs are the same thing. Grind end game content to get gear to grind more end game content.

Do we need more? Hell yes, but there aren't a lot of alternatives right now. I mean I can quit and go back to SWTOR, but it's really the same thing.

Raiding as the sole form of end game content does suck hard. You just got to find the one that hurts the least.

Not gonna compare the game to WoW but that game has A LOT more endgame content than Tera atm. Tera basically has a few dungeons + rep dailys. WoW has all that plus raids, tons of pvp options, deeper crafting and all kinds of fluff things.

WoW is also much more accessible to casuals, hence why it's the #1 mmo. Tera's starter 60 dungeons have a huge skillcap and scale dramatically over lower level content. They are not casual/pug friendly AT ALL currently.

No offense but end game in WoW, and SWTOR was pretty much the same damn thing, minus the enchanting.

Run one of three possible raids, over and over until you get the BIS items.
When you're not doing that, you run dailies to get money for repairs and raiding buff food.

Pretty much most modern mmorpgs are the same thing. Grind end game content to get gear to grind more end game content.

Do we need more? Hell yes, but there aren't a lot of alternatives right now. I mean I can quit and go back to SWTOR, but it's really the same thing.

Raiding as the sole form of end game content does suck hard. You just got to find the one that hurts the least. For now anyway.

Let's hope En Masse listens and starts coming up with new content methods.

Not to sound like a beeotch or anything, but there aren't just two instances you can do at 60.

http://tera.enmasse.com/news/patch-notes/new-launch-features#april-9

I see Ebon Tower and that dungeon has a hard mode for level 60. Kelsaik's Nest is listed and it too has a hard mode. Labyrinth of Terror, which, hey, you guessed it - has a hard mode for 60s.

Is there any reason you haven't listed those, or did you just forget they're in the game? Do people just not like the gear there? Seems a bit silly to skip those unless there's some crazy reason not to do them.

I know that's not a lot of dungeons, but you're kind of blowing this out of proportion here.

Quote: jarson2 on 05/20/2012, 11:36 PM

Quote: FiachSidhe on 05/20/2012, 11:30 PM

No offense but end game in WoW, and SWTOR was pretty much the same damn thing, minus the enchanting.

Run one of three possible raids, over and over until you get the BIS items.
When you're not doing that, you run dailies to get money for repairs and raiding buff food.

Pretty much most modern mmorpgs are the same thing. Grind end game content to get gear to grind more end game content.

Do we need more? Hell yes, but there aren't a lot of alternatives right now. I mean I can quit and go back to SWTOR, but it's really the same thing.

Raiding as the sole form of end game content does suck hard. You just got to find the one that hurts the least.

Not gonna compare the game to WoW but that game has A LOT more endgame content than Tera atm. Tera basically has a few dungeons + rep dailys. WoW has all that plus raids, tons of pvp options, deeper crafting and all kinds of fluff things.

WoW is also much more accessible to casuals, hence why it's the #1 mmo. Tera's starter 60 dungeons have a huge skillcap and scale dramatically over lower level content. They are not casual/pug friendly AT ALL currently.

Not really, when you consider that most players ignore most if not all of the raids that aren't the current end game. Yeah you can do the BC raids, but why? The gear you get in there is obsolete by greens gained through questing before you leave the first zone of Northrend, and the game is also almost a decade old, so it has tons of old content to explore, but it's all useless when end game is concerned.

When I played, end game was Ulduar, Argent Tournament, and Ice Crown Citadel. That's it. I logged in, did some dailies, and waited for my guild to run one of those three things.

Cataclysm got rid of the casual friendly vibe too, and had even less content.

Quote: Mistryl on 05/20/2012, 11:50 PM

Not to sound like a beeotch or anything, but there aren't just two instances you can do at 60.

http://tera.enmasse.com/news/patch-notes/new-launch-features#april-9

I see Ebon Tower and that dungeon has a hard mode for level 60. Kelsaik's Nest is listed and it too has a hard mode. Labyrinth of Terror, which, hey, you guessed it - has a hard mode for 60s.

Is there any reason you haven't listed those, or did you just forget they're in the game? Do people just not like the gear there? Seems a bit silly to skip those unless there's some crazy reason not to do them.

I know that's not a lot of dungeons, but you're kind of blowing this out of proportion here.

Lol. Those instances are NOT endgame-does the top tier(13) drop there? No. Anyone who's played KTera knows better than to count the lvl 58 cap instances as real endgame for lvl 60 and EME should've as well.

Not gonna compare the game to WoW

...but that game has A LOT more endgame content than Tera atm. Tera basically has a few dungeons + rep dailys. WoW has all that plus raids, tons of pvp options, deeper crafting and all kinds of fluff things.

WoW is also much more accessible to casuals, hence why it's the #1 mmo. Tera's starter 60 dungeons have a huge skillcap and scale dramatically over lower level content. They are not casual/pug friendly AT ALL currently.