Why I hate warriors. The Bigger Picture.

Endurance Profile Options #31

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i use 4 hunter pentants and 4 anarchic pentants and i've never had trouble with anything at all.. i can even tank BAMS 2~3 lvls higher than me no problem, only main problems with warrior tanking is that they cant hold aggro like a lancer can, so it really has nothing to do with defense or "LEATHER ARMOR" VS "FULL PLATE ARMOR" when u cant block attacks like a lancer can with a shield, instead you can flip between the monsters legs and attack it from behind, its very easy to see the monsters eyes glow red, if you cant see that then you wont succeed as a warrior sorry

as for gylphs, i havent updated my gylphs since lvl 32 cap but the real breakdown between the two combat stances is that the attack buff gives 15% attack power (i think) and critical at the cost of defense, while the def stance gives endure and doesnt buff attack power at all and it increase aggro rate, you can add gylphs (two of them each adding an extra 20% endure) to it to make it even better than the attack buff which is the reason why i use the def one instead of the atk one

im not fully sure how to dish out high dmg with traverse cut yet, and just because warriors dont use it often in bam fights doesnt mean their noob.. i'd like to see any of u try to keep up with stacking traverse cut on a bam every 15~20 secs + having to dodge its attacks + the bam moving around so dam often and u are most likely gonna get knocked down the stacks is gone

if you have a solid combo u can take out a pair of monsters in less than 3 seconds, but minions is alot more work because they scatter around too much and warriors are not very good with AoE compared to all the other jobs

from what i see, warriors are NEVER picked for instance partys because everyones first thought is.. "OH ITS A WARRIOR I BET THEY GOT SUCKY DMG LETS GET THE SLAYER OR ZERKER INSTEAD".. to me that is just stupid and i believe every class in the game is balanced in their own way
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Endurance on 05/04/2012, 09:34 AM - view
i use 4 hunter pentants and 4 anarchic pentants and i've never had trouble with anything at all.. i can even tank BAMS 2~3 lvls higher than me no problem, only main problems with warrior tanking is that they cant hold aggro like a lancer can, so it really has nothing to do with defense or "LEATHER ARMOR" VS "FULL PLATE ARMOR" when u cant block attacks like a lancer can with a shield, instead you can flip between the monsters legs and attack it from behind, its very easy to see the monsters eyes glow red, if you cant see that then you wont succeed as a warrior sorry

as for gylphs, i havent updated my gylphs since lvl 32 cap but the real breakdown between the two combat stances is that the attack buff gives 15% attack power (i think) and critical at the cost of defense, while the def stance gives endure and doesnt buff attack power at all and it increase aggro rate, you can add gylphs (two of them each adding an extra 20% endure) to it to make it even better than the attack buff which is the reason why i use the def one instead of the atk one

im not fully sure how to dish out high dmg with traverse cut yet, and just because warriors dont use it often in bam fights doesnt mean their noob.. i'd like to see any of u try to keep up with stacking traverse cut on a bam every 15~20 secs + having to dodge its attacks + the bam moving around so dam often and u are most likely gonna get knocked down the stacks is gone

if you have a solid combo u can take out a pair of monsters in less than 3 seconds, but minions is alot more work because they scatter around too much and warriors are not very good with AoE compared to all the other jobs

from what i see, warriors are NEVER picked for instance partys because everyones first thought is.. "OH ITS A WARRIOR I BET THEY GOT SUCKY DMG LETS GET THE SLAYER OR ZERKER INSTEAD".. to me that is just stupid and i believe every class in the game is balanced in their own way



Hate to be blunt here... but from reading your paragraph I can say you don't know much about the Warrior class.
Endurance Profile Options #33

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if you know something i or anyone else dont know say it here! and i play my warrior very well ty
Heyzeus Profile Options #34

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PerfectLife on 05/04/2012, 07:46 AM - view
At this point in time please give me a Lancer or any DPS over a Warrior. In fact, TERA would be a better game at least in the scope of internal consistency if Warrior was totally removed from the game. However, that's the easy and lazy path.

I totally hate Warriors. They make me want to write massive threads with the end goal of reshaping an entire MMO to fit them. I hate Warriors because I love the classes design so much and right now keeping them means tons of work. I want to play that version of TERA where getting a Warrior is a good thing, a benefit, a bonus. I want warriors capable of tanking on the same level as a Lancer or DPS'ing like a Slayer.

Do we keep Warriors and make TERA work with them, or should we just drop them and forget about the whole thing? Have a third option?


Hmm. Inspirational design? Check.

Easy to learn, difficult to master? Check.

Multiple paths of progression and skill? Check.

I think you answered your own question. Warrior is the standard by which all TERA classes should be designed and adjusted.

And warrior dps owns, so Idunnowtfurtalkinbout
doomsaga Profile Options #35

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Not sure if this has been asked yet but... why isnt this in class part of the forums..
Sheapy Profile Options #36

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Lol any DPS over a warrior? Are you on crack? Come end game, warriors will out DPS slayers.
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Celestial Hills - Roleplay (PVE)
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Heyzeus on 05/04/2012, 09:59 AM - view
Hmm. Inspirational design? Check.

Easy to learn, difficult to master? Check.

Multiple paths of progression and skill? Check.

I think you answered your own question. Warrior is the standard by which all TERA classes should be designed and adjusted.

And warrior dps owns, so Idunnowtfurtalkinbout


This so much. I wish all the classes had been a bit more like warrior.

^.^
Criddy Profile Options #38

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Warriors are fine. Yesterday had a Lancer and warrior try to gank me at the same time and somehow ended up killing them both by being patient and using the warriors skills at the right time.

I also do not feel the damage is low. They just rely on gear and skill
Endurance Profile Options #39

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Sheapy on 05/04/2012, 10:06 AM - view
Lol any DPS over a warrior? Are you on crack? Come end game, warriors will out DPS slayers.


ya but most ppl are not at end game.. lets say 27~30ish (im lvl 50 i was just giving an example)
doomsaga Profile Options #40

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Sheapy on 05/04/2012, 10:06 AM - view
Lol any DPS over a warrior? Are you on crack? Come end game, warriors will out DPS slayers.


I agree warriors do good dps and great support for increasing overall party dps but out dps slayers? are you the one on crack?