Why a Smaller Player-base is a Good Thing

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Yeah a small player is a good thing, I mean look at FFXIV.. oh wait nvm it's not a good thing at all.
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daays on 03/19/2012, 03:32 PM - view

Second, you'r right, that's how Blizzard established their name, by releasing average products like Diablo, Starcraft, and Warcraft.

Also not only was Blizzard magically born with an infinite supply of money to back them, but by releasing an average product at best, in an industry that spits all over average games, they managed to take 50% of the market.

Do you even stop and think before speaking? Or are you just another frothing at the mouth, raging hater.


Incase you didn't know, none of the origional blizzard staff is still working for them, the blizzard who made the greats of starcraft, warcraft (not wow) and diablo series is not around anymore.

Wow itself is really [filtered] and has been since release. The only reason I stuck around (and a lot of other ppl as well) is because of friends and acquaintances they made online, and of course that there was nothing else to play.

If you want to play wow go back to wow instead of trying to change a game that is trying to be different, into a wow clone.
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Waiden on 03/19/2012, 03:37 PM - view
daays on 03/19/2012, 03:32 PM
Waiden on 03/19/2012, 03:26 PM

WoW is the richest gaming company out there. With money they have and make they can develop another avarage mmo and it will become one of the most played mmo anyway.


First off, WoW isn't the company.

Second, you'r right, that's how Blizzard established their name, by releasing average products like Diablo, Starcraft, and Warcraft.

Also not only was Blizzard magically born with an infinite supply of money to back them, but by releasing an average product at best, in an industry that spits all over average games, they managed to take 50% of the market.

Do you even stop and think before speaking? Or are you just another frothing at the mouth, raging hater.


Sorry blizzard, my mistake there.
We are not talking about Diablo, SC, or warcraft. Those are one of the best games ever made and I am not telling you WoW is not not one of the best MMOs ever made (I had the best time ever playing vanilla and tbc) but now, for us who came to play Tera because we dont like wow, swtor, rift games anymore YES its avarage (NOW - WoTLK, cataclysm). Thats why we dont want Tera to have 10M subs because that will lead to same result as wow wotlk and cataclysm.

So I hear from every second friend that ever played wow that vanilla and TBC were best and now it suck, for no reason?

I JUST DONT want to hear Tera was best at launch and now it sucks in next couple of years !

Do you get it?


It'll be watered down to generic proportions here. JP/K-Tera will remain as originals and for the hardcore players. Korea/JP has no intention of changing and ganking content like EME/Frogster has done for their NA/EU releases.

There will be no "downgrade" upgrades, there will be no random pulling of content that is somehow a problem but was never mentioned on the forums until the last minute in an announcement and worked fine. Option items like mischeft boxes got ganked because someone at EME didn't like the loosing streak.

I've seen arguements how some players said it made them loose too much and that it took up space, but all that had to be done was to simply NOT pick up the item. Mischief boxes weren't items that popped up all the time either, there were also other engine boxes that had a chance of changing some low-quality items into higher or rare-items.

I'm starting to wonder the type of people that are for the pro-changes are those with just beta-keys or played tera for 5 minutes.

One of the excuses for pets was because of some 'lag' they caused. When pets could be turned off optionally anyway AND people who have low-end computers are really pushing it when it comes to the graphics anyway.

Tera in itself is not meant for low-end computers to use for. Tera's uniqueness is being silently killed for yet another generic mmo perspective of gaming. It was never a western mmo to began with but EME is treating it as one.

Boy, when those cloud-strife looking characters finally start to show up in this game's plot, is EME going to yank them all out too? When nothing is left of TERA because all of it's hype and guttings, it'll just be another "casual mmo" sitter on the shelf. The "general audience" will leave to Guild Wars (which has a similar action mmo console combat system) and other mmo's.

No player in their right mind wants a game where their receiving less content than what the asking price is asking for. Or stuff just being pulled out at random based on focus groups than actual player-feedback.

How many times do players have to keep submitting polls, threads to EME about changes and EME simply remains silent? The pet change thread has already reached 100 posts now.

Consider changes Permant= Pre-mature death game.
Edited by: ChoppaGurl over 2 years ago
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XxVicariousxX on 03/19/2012, 04:26 PM - view

just wanted to say thats a horrible idea. if you could get the other players stuff what would keep some high lvled fool from just sitting around some area 10 lvls lower then him, insta killing anyone who comes by, stealing all their gold/consumables, then moving on. no, thats a horrible idea.

but i agree with your main point, as long as TERA has enough to sustain itself (or maybe even just a bit lower so the sub fee is dropped, which could be good or bad, depends on how you feel about F2P games, completely biased to them no matter what, like not having to pay more money on a monthly basis no matter how the quality drops, or etc) but not too much so as to get the "WoW disease." if TERA gets it then i wouldnt be surprised if the now amazing combat gets dumbed down or something, which would be the worst thing possible for this game :(


No, no, don't dissuade them. I say GIVE them their foolish idea and let them choke on it. One berserker sits in a convenient area that everyone passes through and slaughters them with impunity. Say...the Island of Dawn flight point. After all, its HARD CORE! They don't need to be protected from pvp on the starter island, that's for them slimy, filthy, game-wrecking carebears!

Just make sure each one of these blowhards is locked into a 2-year subscription for their pvp heaven. In 2 years we can come back and see how they're doing. I know one person will think it's the greatest game ever, at least!
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Calypso on 03/19/2012, 06:00 PM - view
XxVicariousxX on 03/19/2012, 04:26 PM

just wanted to say thats a horrible idea. if you could get the other players stuff what would keep some high lvled fool from just sitting around some area 10 lvls lower then him, insta killing anyone who comes by, stealing all their gold/consumables, then moving on. no, thats a horrible idea.

but i agree with your main point, as long as TERA has enough to sustain itself (or maybe even just a bit lower so the sub fee is dropped, which could be good or bad, depends on how you feel about F2P games, completely biased to them no matter what, like not having to pay more money on a monthly basis no matter how the quality drops, or etc) but not too much so as to get the "WoW disease." if TERA gets it then i wouldnt be surprised if the now amazing combat gets dumbed down or something, which would be the worst thing possible for this game :(


No, no, don't dissuade them. I say GIVE them their foolish idea and let them choke on it. One berserker sits in a convenient area that everyone passes through and slaughters them with impunity. Say...the Island of Dawn flight point. After all, its HARD CORE! They don't need to be protected from pvp on the starter island, that's for them slimy, filthy, game-wrecking carebears!

Just make sure each one of these blowhards is locked into a 2-year subscription for their pvp heaven. In 2 years we can come back and see how they're doing. I know one person will think it's the greatest game ever, at least!


PVP doesn't work that way. In order to PVP you need to engage a skill first. Otherwise random players can't just pop up and kill you, nor can they take items.

PvP skill is obtainable at level 11/14ish (either 11 or 14).

The only thing that can break are crystals if you die.

The type of PVP that's being refered to is Anarchy PVP aka "free for all".
Edited by: ChoppaGurl over 2 years ago
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ChoppaGurl on 03/19/2012, 06:07 PM - view

PVP doesn't work that way. In order to PVP you need to engage a skill first. Otherwise random players can't just pop up and kill you, nor can they take items.

PvP skill is obtainable at level 11/14ish (either 11 or 14).

The only thing that can break are crystals if you die. So don't equip rare crystals in unknown battles.


I'm quite aware how it works, Choppa. =P I'm talking about a HARDCORE server, like so many of them seem to want. You know, like the one that type of player whined to get on AoC for nearly a year and, once they did, turned it into a ghost town in a matter of weeks? Make it a pvp heaven. Full loot, all coins, all gear (including worn!), all weapons, and a death penalty of 2 levels. If you die before level 3, new character. RAWR, I feel the powah of the peeveepee gawds flowin' thru me already! Just be sure to lock them into a 2 year sub first. No backing out of this one!
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ChoppaGurl on 03/19/2012, 05:49 PM - view

It'll be watered down to generic proportions here. JP/K-Tera will remain as originals and for the hardcore players. Korea/JP has no intention of changing and ganking content like EME/Frogster has done for their NA/EU releases.

There will be no "downgrade" upgrades, there will be no random pulling of content that is somehow a problem but was never mentioned on the forums until the last minute in an announcement and worked fine. Option items like mischeft boxes got ganked because someone at EME didn't like the loosing streak.

I've seen arguements how some players said it made them loose too much and that it took up space, but all that had to be done was to simply NOT pick up the item. Mischief boxes weren't items that popped up all the time either, there were also other engine boxes that had a chance of changing some low-quality items into higher or rare-items.

I'm starting to wonder the type of people that are for the pro-changes are those with just beta-keys or played tera for 5 minutes.

One of the excuses for pets was because of some 'lag' they caused. When pets could be turned off optionally anyway AND people who have low-end computers are really pushing it when it comes to the graphics anyway.

Tera in itself is not meant for low-end computers to use for. Tera's uniqueness is being silently killed for yet another generic mmo perspective of gaming. It was never a western mmo to began with but EME is treating it as one.

Boy, when those cloud-strife looking characters finally start to show up in this game's plot, is EME going to yank them all out too? When nothing is left of TERA because all of it's hype and guttings, it'll just be another "casual mmo" sitter on the shelf. The "general audience" will leave to Guild Wars (which has a similar action mmo console combat system) and other mmo's.

No player in their right mind wants a game where their receiving less content than what the asking price is asking for. Or stuff just being pulled out at random based on focus groups than actual player-feedback.

How many times do players have to keep submitting polls, threads to EME about changes and EME simply remains silent? The pet change thread has already reached 100 posts now.

Consider changes Permant= Pre-mature death game.


You do realize these "changes" are already in KTERA, right? And have been for months? Ok, just checking.