Why can't we get naked?

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Kailthir on 05/03/2012, 01:09 AM - view
Not every state or local follow the esrb, after all it's a suggestion. It's not like the MPA that rates movies. There was a lawsuite about a year ago on this. Video games ratings can not be mandatorly enforced.

So yes in alot of places a child younger than 17 could purchase the game and a game card and play it. Even a child of 17 isn't allowed to purchase anime porn.There are laws you know. i seriously doubt that EME would want to get sued and fined and maybe some jail time for distributing porn to a minor. You know as well as I do that would happen.

So your point is kinda moot. You are just trying to justify putting an overly sexual theme in a game where it's not needed.
My point is perfect, and you blundered right into it.

Using your argument, we can't have anything in games which is inappropriate for children, as the reality is they have access to them all. So, any game which is rated above 12 (or whatever) must automatically be censored to child-friendly levels or outright banned.

But of course, we don't do that, because all but a vocal minority realise that such actions would be ridiculous. We have GTA on the shelves even knowing some kids will end up playing it, and we could have uncensored Tera too.

As for your other points, it would be hard to attack EME for distributing porn if, as you say, video games don't get the strictly enforced ratings porn gets. Is it material which must be regulated, or isn't it.
"trying to justify putting an overly sexual theme in a game where it's not needed" - Nothing in any game is needed. It's entertainment. No justification is needed other than people want it there or (in the case of localisation) that it was in the original. You could make this same fail argument about literally anything in any game.

Also - nudity isn't inherently sexual.
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Kailthir on 05/03/2012, 01:15 AM - view


I agree with your post about the parent being involved. I don't let my kids play games that I do not concider age appropiate. But like i said in another post... the ESRB isn't enforcable. A court decided that about a year ago. Ruled it a suggestion and voluntary, cause video games is (are? not sure which word fits) art.


Yes which is why there is no problem here. And why a lot of us are sitting here not really sure why this rated M game has to be censored. It's like selling chocolate cake but its actually not just chocolate it's actually got a strawberry filling. But since its mainly chocolate cake. It's chocolate cake. So you buy this chocolate cake and you take a bite out of it and youre like "wait what this isnt just chocolate cake wth?"

... That was a bad comparison. But it should sorta makes my point.
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Either way, this is all subjective. I enjoy the game as it is. Without the nudity. But hey that is just me. Apparently alot of you disagree, some of you don't. Everyone is entitled to their opnions. An I can respect that.

At this point I feel it silly to agrue either side of the issue, EME is gonna do what is best for them in the long run. Whatever that may be.
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Kailthir on 05/03/2012, 01:22 AM - view
Either way, this is all subjective. I enjoy the game as it is. Without the nudity. But hey that is just me. Apparently alot of you disagree, some of you don't. Everyone is entitled to their opnions. An I can respect that.

At this point I feel it silly to agrue either side of the issue, EME is gonna do what is best for them in the long run. Whatever that may be.


I honestly hope they come up with a solution that can settle both sides. Apparently its not just nerfed 'nudity' that had been taken out.
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Kailthir on 05/03/2012, 01:22 AM - view
Either way, this is all subjective. I enjoy the game as it is. Without the nudity. But hey that is just me. Apparently alot of you disagree, some of you don't. Everyone is entitled to their opnions. An I can respect that.

At this point I feel it silly to agrue either side of the issue, EME is gonna do what is best for them in the long run. Whatever that may be.


not sure if censoring their game willy nilly is a good thing for the long run. It sets a precedent and they can use it to justify further changes.
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The game is fun, and removing the censorship will make it...... wait for it.... wait for it... LEGENDARYYYYY :))
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Bondragor on 05/03/2012, 01:25 AM - view
The game is fun, and removing the censorship will make it...... wait for it.... wait for it... LEGENDARYYYYY :))


Legendary??? I really hate to ask this but... how would it be legendary? LMAO
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I feel the stranged need to put on a suit.
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Kailthir on 05/02/2012, 11:07 PM - view
KorruptFear on 05/02/2012, 10:58 PM
actually its the opposite. Maturity allows people to handle it without being grossed out.


Being 38 years old, have a wife and 2 kids, about to retire 20 yrs in the army... I think I pretty much have the maturity thing down pat. I never said I was grossed out. One can be mature and not want to see nakid or semi nakid cartoons. Like I said if you want to see that try some jap. anime. It's not not needed in an MMO. Not to mention, it makes no sense.

Why would you run around in the game world unarmored, no protection? Reminds me of a streaker. Which I think we all can agree is immature.


The fact that you're intolerant of something so insignificant and are holding such a high ground shows how immature you actually are. Being 38 with a wife and kids doesn't mean your mature. It's not exactly hard to make a baby and get married. It's done by millions of people daily.
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Some armors don't support undressing very well. Castanic Male cloth armors are a prime example of this - every single one of them has gloves that go all the way up to about mid bicep, and every single jacket with sleeves is designed to go under those gloves. The jacket isn't modeled and skinned beyond the gloves as there's no point to it.

On other races, the issue isn't nearly as profound, but in some cases is very much there.

This is likely also why we can only preview armor the character can wear.

In hindsight, underwear was likely removed not because they're trying to hide controversial material but because of quality assurance.

As an aside: Their game. Their vision. M =/= everything that M allows.