Why exactly do PvPers hate on PvE?

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Vexia on 04/14/2012, 05:17 PM - view
I don't understand the mentality of hatred PvPers tend to have towards strictly-PvEers, either. To me, it's a bit like eaters of strawberry ice cream touting their superiority over those who prefer vanilla. PvE or PvP is a matter of taste; sometimes, I enjoy the risk involved in trying to quest on a PvP server wherein anybody could attack me at any given moment. That type of play can foster a great sense of camaraderie on the one hand because players tend to group up to ward off attackers, but it can create a mentality in others that they need to be overly hostile and aggressive to show dominance. PvE servers tend to be more relaxing to play on because a person can pick up their quests and go about completing them without the fear of inconvenient deaths. There is still e-peen jousting, but it can largely be ignored. You can block someone who brags about their "mad skillz", but you can't necessarily escape every PvP encounter. Sometimes, I want one play experience, and sometimes I want the other. I see no problem with people who choose to play the game in a manner that they find enjoyable.


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Marineb0i on 04/14/2012, 05:16 PM - view
Taemira on 04/14/2012, 05:07 PM
I play PvE because I generally don't like attacking a person with the element of surprise, and I hate it when it happens to me.

When I want to focus on a task in-game, I don't like being interrupted, even if it's an in-game interruption.

It's not like I don't PvP at all... I love dueling friends for fun. Both know when the fight starts and both have an equal chance of ending it. It's all up to skill, and not levels (as generally if a player is 5 levels higher than you, you don't accept the challenge without knowing your chances of losing).



My thoughts exactly. There's no skill involved in an unfair fight to begin with (unless the underdog comes out on top, then that's just sad and the ambusher should just uninstall the game).

And just because I can hide behind a character online, I'm not going to act like a total d-bag because that's just not me. It's the same reason why I don't go camping out in front of the newbie camp in other MMOs. There's no sense of accomplishment and all you do is ruin other people's experiences.


I think you PvE guys take ALL us PvP guys as gankers. I like PvP for guild wars and PvP events and even defending myself on the road.
I don't, as well as most people I play with, don't just run around jumping lowbies... that would be like you PvE guys getting 60 then jumping low level mobs. You get to flex your e-muscle for a minute but that wears off quickly. Granted some players will always run around ganking lowbies, but they then get ganked too. . . or lowbie changes channel.

But even if I was camped (which I have been in other games that didn't have a channel option) I would never deprive myself of that experience.

PK'ers are villains
PKK'ers are heroes. I'd rather be the hero.
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Different personalities would be my best guess. I prefer PvE servers due to the fact that I'm not really one for ambushing people out of nowhere or fighting people when I don't have to. I enjoy teaming up with people to accomplish things like killing giant monsters and such.

Other people like the thrill of killing groups of players, or outleveling them to the extent where the people they're attacking have absolutely no chance. People who enjoy PvP aren't necessarily lumped into one group of spiteful lunatics who hate PvE, it's just the vocal minority who end up posting on the forums because they think their opinions on the matter is the most correct.

I'm glad people have fun PvPing, and I find it quite fun to watch. Hell, I enjoy PvP from time to time as well, so it's not to say that I'm against participating. It can be pretty eye-opening when someone completely destroys me in a duel. Even more so when they offer advice to help me become a better player.

To the person who said that PvE players can't handle unconditional PvP, that's not necessarily true. While I assume most people could handle it, and sometimes come out victorious, it's just not the kind of play style that appeals to some people.
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Cyliana on 04/14/2012, 05:07 PM - view
GenName on 04/14/2012, 04:54 PM
Cyliana on 04/14/2012, 04:47 PM
PvE is for people who can't handle unconditional PvP, hence they are looked down upon accordingly.


Yes, it's really a shame that the group of 30 guilded people that only travel together when looking for PvP look down on others that enjoy setting up and entering balanced matches where the outcome won't be so lopsided.



I know you don't have friends, fairly obvious thanks to your bad taste in sarcasm but no need to make it that clear.

If you're stupid enough to not be able to avoid groups with PvP'ers with a 5 second channel swapping system you do indeed classify as a PvE n00b and should stay there, missing out half the game's content accordingly. Thanks.


So the reason you are looking down on PvE'ers is because... They don't do something that does not interest them?

I honestly wonder how you could even type this considering how you seemingly are brain dead...
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Kinda saved yourself with the "not painting a picture for all pvp folks"
Because I was going to say in high school I was the bully/jock. I was an "in the closet nerd" I loved gaming but I had a very healthy social life, I'm currently engaged to a very attractive woman and I run my own company. I could be lying as this is the internet so I can say whatever I'd like, but all these things can be verified if it REALLY bothers you.
It sounds to me like you got ganked 1 too many times and you're angry at 99% of PvP'ers for it. Wanna talk about it buddy? Step into my PM office, I'm a great listener.


^ Nope, actually don't care. I know there are exceptions. It doesn't change what I stated.

I don't gank, I've been ganked. It doesn't bother my day to day because it's game. I made my decision to roll PVE because I like to get immersed in peace. To me PVP is like reading a book and somebody slapping it out of my hand and yelling "PWNED" after.

I've watched people gank and get ganked in life situations where they can't come back. Where there is accountability.

What I wish not to see are countless forum threads about it, advantages, disadvantages, server not fair, blah blah blah. If you want to live in a lawless world live in it.

From a gaming aspect mmorpg PVP is not even a true test of 1v1 strategy and hand eye coordination. So the whole "Carebear" direspect, is a failed one.
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Somniare on 04/14/2012, 05:05 PM - view
Because people who roll on a PvE server is paying for their sub, while forgoing a feature of the game. At the end, they're not playing the game to its fullest potential.


You make it sound like you HAVE to PK someone in order to play the game to the fullest potential. Even if this game only had PvP servers, I'm still not going to attack someone who's occupied with a mob/quest.

PvP servers just give you a chance to troll people (imo). There's honestly nothing important missing from the PvE servers. If I wanted an open world fight, I'll just request a duel with someone so at least we both start the fight on an equal footing.
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Marineb0i on 04/14/2012, 05:23 PM - view
Somniare on 04/14/2012, 05:05 PM
Because people who roll on a PvE server is paying for their sub, while forgoing a feature of the game. At the end, they're not playing the game to its fullest potential.


You make it sound like you HAVE to PK someone in order to play the game to the fullest potential. Even if this game only had PvP servers, I'm still not going to attack someone who's occupied with a mob/quest.

PvP servers just give you a chance to troll people (imo). There's honestly nothing important missing from the PvE servers. If I wanted an open world fight, I'll just request a duel with someone so at least we both start the fight on an equal footing.


That is why I roll PvP, you said it best. because it gives me the CHANCE to troll people, or kill trolls, or do whatever I like. I'm a fan of choice. I rarely PK for no reason, but knowing that I can, it just seems tge logical choice to me. .. plus all the other things I mentioned afew posts back.
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I roll a PvE server because throughout the games I've played (on both PvE and PvP servers) they tend to have a better community. I'm looking to build up a fairly large community type guild and the average PvPer's attitude doesn't really sit well with me or most of my friends. That being said I've been a PvP addict for years and will probably camp battlegrounds in between instance runs with my guildies.
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Muzein on 04/14/2012, 05:17 PM - view
As for leveling in OWPvP; the players may be the same level, as we're mostly all in level-appropriate zones doing quests, etc... but PvP encounters are completely unscripted. Everyone knows where to go to find the harpy den to collect 6 apples for their quest. Nobody however, knows when or where PvP action will spring up. It's something that you are always on guard and prepared for.

Which is great - that's what I like about PvP. Problem is, it rarely happens in MMO's. Especially outside of controlled circumstances like battlegrounds. 9 times out of 10, it turns into something unwinnable and unavoidable, since the "action" comes in a group of 5, who are 10 levels higher who are approaching on mount while I'm engaged with a mob.

Really, what's the point? There's no way in hell I'm winning unless they all have spontaneous heart attacks behind their screens. They get nothing for winning the encounter. I'm honestly unable to understand how that kind of gameplay could even be enjoyable. At least a mob would give you something to compensate for the tedium.

Maybe I just have bad luck. But it's been a long run of bad luck across half a dozen MMO's at this point. So really, why bother? And in regards to the OP's statement, the kind of PvPers who actively disparage my kind - I accept the compliment graciously.