Its not dumbed down YET. Give it time, people will do what they are doing now: complain. Eventually it WILL happen because EME is still bound by the exact same thing Blizzard is: Its customers. I hope EME will realize, the LFD is more of a gateway for people to make the game WORSE off than better. Player time has gone down and subs have stagnated for WoW since the launch of the LFD changes. The past doesn't lie, and its already becoming apparent. You don't think that this same argument wasn't going on when people were asking for Blizzard to do it? It was. It just wasn't very loud since the consequences were unknown. Its clear as day now that its the norm. Take a look, you will you will find that games with a LFD like WoW are very dumbed down so anyone can play it. Give them an inch, they take the full mile.

Stop nitpicking my posts, just because Im right. It only proves I am right when you have nothing to say to the main part of the post and have to resort to picking on small details.

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Once again how are you coming to the conclusion that LFD are part of the problem.

LFD does nothing to stop players from leaving town. But it doesn't do anything to encourage them as well.

You're talking about a lack of OW incentive, then blaming a tool that was added to make running instanced content easier for the player base as the reason why.

How you got to that conclusion is beyond me still.

login to a WoW server and see that everyone is either in a dungeo/BG, in a Queue in city, or not max level. Once they are done with their dailies, they have nothing else to do, BECAUSE there is nothing else to do.

Once again how are you coming to the conclusion that LFD are part of the problem.

LFD does nothing to stop players from leaving town. But it doesn't do anything to encourage them as well.

You're talking about a lack of OW incentive, then blaming a tool that was added to make running instanced content easier for the player base as the reason why.

How you got to that conclusion is beyond me still.

If I do not have to leave the town, why would I? The tool not just enables, but rewards me for never having to travel to an instance (utilize the open world), and therefore never leaving town, and therefore a contributing factor.

I'm not nit-picking.

One of your main point for being against LFD is that sometime in the distant future it may get nerfed to become easier than normally running the dungeon.

Like...do you know how absolutely insane that sounds? Where are you coming to these conclusions?

WoW has stagnated and gone down since LFD? Pretty sure LFD was added in LK and that's when WoW peaked subs.

Are you honestly blaming the loss of 2million subs in CATA solely on LFD?

Let alone LFD didn't even "Dumb" anything down.

LFR did. And that's completely different than LFD.

Please, for the love of god, quit spewing random crap.

And where exactly is YOUR proof that its NOT happening or one of the causes of the 2 million sub loss? YOU HAVE NONE JUST LIKE ME SO SHUT UP, and dont give me that BS that it had no effect. There are plenty of us who left WoW with the main reason being the LFD changes. My entire 50+ man guild and friends stopped playing because we couldn't stand the level the community had dropped to. I know plenty of people who can confirm this as well. The few friends I have that still play it either don't care either way, or hate it. That simple. I at least have REAL WORLD people to tell me otherwise. oh wait, you probably don't have friends since all you did was sit in LFD and didn't have to interact. im sorry.

Also, clearly you didn't play during WOTLK yourself. the LFD changes didnt hit until AFTER subs capped. Even at that point, such changes wouldn't show immediate effect. It was dumbed down about 6 months after the patch was in effect. ICC 5 mans got nerfed 3 months after they were out because people [filtered]ed they were too hard. Now you get a 'buff' that helps you when you use LFD. LFR is even worse [filtered] so we wont go there.

and you, FOR THE LOVE OF GOD GET A BRAIN. Stop being a fanboy of the easy. Games are supposed to be a CHALLENGE (my definition of 'work' for games) to have fun. Being a mindless zombie, is not fun.

Don't try to claim your not nitpicking when clearly this is over a half-sentence line.

Dungeon Finder is a great tool.

That said, for a game like TERA it needs to be within server and there can be no teleporting to the dungeons. Auto-search and partying, however, is great. No one likes chat spam, but the people looking for dungeons and the people actually trying to have conversation.

I think it has to do with everything and just the overall lackluster feeling of CATA.

TBC expanded the game drastically. LK added a new class, achievements, and LFD.

CATA...re-skinned the world?

So wait...your entire 50 man guild never ran instances together? Raided together? Did BG's together? May I ask why? If the community is so awful, well, you know you only need 10 people to do all the content in the game. No need to group with anyone outside your guild.

You get the 5% buff if you use LFD or don't. LFR is easy. Then again it was never designed to be hard. LFR was meant to play Raids on easy mode. Are you complaining that the easy mode setting is....easy? Or that now everyone can experience the game's content, while only 1% will complete the game on hard-mode?
Or that people can get loot which is equiv to the previous content's hard-modes?

So to you "challenging" is finding a group and walking to a dungeon?

You're just one giant enigma.