While it is true that Warriors are not great PvP damage dealers and trash mobs skirmishes are resolved too quickly for them to accrue a good stack, they actually put out competitive damage during boss encounters. It is not as much as a Sorceror, but it still is pretty good.
If yu actually play Ktera where would you rate them? Like I've said 100 times I just want comparable DPS, i ahve 0 desire to play easy mode top DPS
Read what I wrote above please. You don't need comparable DPS as a Warrior to get in a group as DPS as a Warrior. Following my design suggestion, you'll be able to play the class you want as the type you want and still be viable for both without screwing up a pure's purpose as DPS king/queen.
read what i just posed. NO ONE is going to bring a warrior for their "utility" when they can bring a zerker and get 25% more DPS
Why? can you tell me how many warrior tanks you've seen? have you paid any attention to the game in Korea? Warriors are being pushed further and further towards being DPS. They still however suffer from the Hybrid tax. Like i've said 100 times it's an outdated mechanic that has ZERO place in a western game, and it won't lead to homogenization. It'll lead to me being able play the class I want.
As for balance it's easily doable. Liek any other game you have to spec to be a tank or a DPS. I can't just mid fight decide to be a tank and successfully do it. So please learn what you're talking about especially because TERA isn't like any other MMO currently in the western market so yeah...
In beta I believe it was EME that stated statistically warriors where the most common class to be played. I also have had more warriors tank for me in the last 3 betas. I watch Korean streams daily and I see plenty of warriors tanking. Your argument is weak and seems self justified selfishness.
There has been no plan to REMOVE any of their tanking ability so they are still a tank. They are not moving towards a pure dps role. What you think is a outdated mechanic is called balance. Something you are unable to understand apparently because its obvious you made this thread for selfish reasons.
Glyph's are not exactly specing. You still fall into the same role in this game when you picked your class as you do when you glyph. A pure can't glyph to tank or heal. So unless you want to suggest stripping warriors of most of their dodges and tanking skills you are about to be flamed for suggesting EVEN more dps for warriors.
read what i just posed. NO ONE is going to bring a warrior for their "utility" when they can bring a zerker and get 25% more DPS
It's true, though. The LFD tool will automatically assign the Warrior as a damage dealer, and you can really feel the difference of having a Warrior in your group.
I read your suggestion, and tbh quite honest I don't think it will work. Western gamers bring DPS classes for their DPS not their utility. Because of that I honestly believe we need a buff because as I've said in Ktera warriors being pushed more towards DPS while still being made to suffer the Hybrid tax.
Just thought of something too. Isn't the 9th class supposed to be another "true" tank? If that's true then yeah we really should buff warriors and make them a pure class because no point in have 2 pure tanks 4 pure dps 1 healer, 1 support/healer and 1 hybrid dps
So the issue I'm seeing here is not my suggestion. It's a muddied understanding of "what will" happen in the future of the game. You aren't sure (and neither am I tbh) what this 9th class will be. I understand Ktera might be in your eyes pushed towards DPS, but this doesn't necessarily mean NA will also push Warriors to DPS. Just remember: they are westernizing for us. This means NA != and does not mimic KTera.
If indeed this 9th class is a pure tank, then I agree with you. Tera does not need 1 hybrid dps. However, pushing a Warrior as DPS also means they are 1 melee DPS over the ranged DPS (imbalance). Let's just see what En Masse has in store for us before getting too worked up.
As far as what people have been saying about BHS pushing Warriors as DPS, again this doesn't necessarily sway true for NA. This same concept applies to people saying Ktera queues Warriors as DPS. That's Ktera, not NA. The publisher is who calls the shots. Not the developer. En Masse is our publisher. Let's see what En Masse decides to do with Warriors.
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Why? can you tell me how many warrior tanks you've seen? have you paid any attention to the game in Korea? Warriors are being pushed further and further towards being DPS. They still however suffer from the Hybrid tax. Like i've said 100 times it's an outdated mechanic that has ZERO place in a western game, and it won't lead to homogenization. It'll lead to me being able play the class I want.
As for balance it's easily doable. Liek any other game you have to spec to be a tank or a DPS. I can't just mid fight decide to be a tank and successfully do it. So please learn what you're talking about especially because TERA isn't like any other MMO currently in the western market so yeah...
In beta I believe it was EME that stated statistically warriors where the most common class to be played. I also have had more warriors tank for me in the last 3 betas. I watch Korean streams daily and I see plenty of warriors tanking. Your argument is weak and seems self justified selfishness.
There has been no plan to REMOVE any of their tanking ability so they are still a tank. They are not moving towards a pure dps role. What you think is a outdated mechanic is called balance. Something you are unable to understand apparently because its obvious you made this thread for selfish reasons.
Glyph's are not exactly specing. You still fall into the same role in this game when you picked your class as you do when you glyph. A pure can't glyph to tank or heal. So unless you want to suggest stripping warriors of most of their dodges and tanking skills you are about to be flamed for suggesting EVEN more dps for warriors.
What EVEN more DPS? they're one of if not the LOWEST DPS classes. As for tanks they're better suited to OT than main tank. so yeah i still want to know what more DPS??????
I read your suggestion, and tbh quite honest I don't think it will work. Western gamers bring DPS classes for their DPS not their utility. Because of that I honestly believe we need a buff because as I've said in Ktera warriors being pushed more towards DPS while still being made to suffer the Hybrid tax.
Just thought of something too. Isn't the 9th class supposed to be another "true" tank? If that's true then yeah we really should buff warriors and make them a pure class because no point in have 2 pure tanks 4 pure dps 1 healer, 1 support/healer and 1 hybrid dps
So the issue I'm seeing here is not my suggestion. It's a muddied understanding of "what will" happen in the future of the game. You aren't sure (and neither am I tbh) what this 9th class will be. I understand Ktera might be in your eyes pushed towards DPS, but this doesn't necessarily mean NA will also push Warriors to DPS. Just remember: they are westernizing for us. This means NA != and does not mimic KTera.
If indeed this 9th class is a pure tank, then I agree with you. Tera does not need 1 hybrid dps. However, pushing a Warrior as DPS also means they are 1 melee DPS over the ranged DPS (imbalance). Let's just see what En Masse has in store for us before getting too worked up.
As far as what people have been saying about BHS pushing Warriors as DPS, again this doesn't necessarily sway true for NA. The publisher is who calls the shots. Not the developer.
Ktera prety much = NAtera. The only major differences so far are the languages, questing, PvP, and AH.
The developer also calls all the shots. EME is just here to help westernize the game and to publish it. they have VERY limited influence into the actual changes and have none if any power over actual development aside from like i said westernizing. If you don't believe me watch this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nHRWy7bbqE
What EVEN more DPS? they're one of if not the LOWEST DPS classes. As for tanks they're better suited to OT than main tank. so yeah i still want to know what more DPS??????
Even more dps then they have gotten and will get. They have already been buffed once. They can main tank just fine. This prospective you have that they are OT's are limited by player skill. It is the hardest class in the game which directly effects what that person can thank. They don't need more dps until EME decides they are no longer a tank. Something that is unlikely to happen.
Ktera prety much = NAtera. The only major differences so far are the languages, PvP, and AH.
The developer also calls all the shots. EME is just here to help westernize the game and to publish it. they have VERY limited influence into the actual changes and have none if any power over actual development aside from like i said westernizing. If you don't believe me watch this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nHRWy7bbqE
I understand you believe they are equal but they are not. Please don't think I'm flaming here or calling names, but it is clear to me you do not work in the game industry at all. They have extraordinary influence more than they will ever admit as a publisher and you would know this if you've ever developed or published any non-indie game.
Ktera prety much = NAtera. The only major differences so far are the languages, PvP, and AH.
The developer also calls all the shots. EME is just here to help westernize the game and to publish it. they have VERY limited influence into the actual changes and have none if any power over actual development aside from like i said westernizing. If you don't believe me watch this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nHRWy7bbqE
So you really think EME just loc'ed the game HAHA.. omg.
Publisher calls the shots bro. I work for a developer, we pretty much get told what to wear when we go to work lol. EME was founded for the single task of bringing the Tera experience to NA meaning if they have a concern it is heard since they are the experts or BHS would be doing this their selves.
What EVEN more DPS? they're one of if not the LOWEST DPS classes. As for tanks they're better suited to OT than main tank. so yeah i still want to know what more DPS??????
Even more dps then they have gotten and will get. They have already been buffed once. They can main tank just fine. This prospective you have that they are OT's are limited by player skill. It is the hardest class in the game which directly effects what that person can thank. They don't need more dps until EME decides they are no longer a tank. Something that is unlikely to happen.
except they have NO dps. after level 20 their DPS starts dropping HARD