Quote: Uchikoma on 04/04/2012, 07:01 AM - view

So basicly, you are giving your judgement on a fan translation of a mechanic that is currently in testing for which we have little information.

Good Job, Uchikoma.

I wish EME was better at staying on top of this stuff and sharing information. All we're going by is a translation by someone who admits to not being an amazing translator.

I'm all for warriors getting love for PvE tanking, but don't think they need any help at all for PvP. And I'm not sure Lancers needed any help for either.

Quote: Destian on 04/04/2012, 07:14 AM - view

You can see on the image added by Cori that this is not the stamina bar we've seen already. There will be no potions for this stamina.

I can't wait to see how fast the stamina resource regenerates.

Quote: Swarm on 04/04/2012, 07:26 AM - view

I'm sure there'll be enchanting modifiers to regen it as well.

I imagine it being like the WoW Energy bar or the Vindictus Stamina bar. Very limited resource that will go out quickly if you spam a skill. But if you use stamina skills at a slower pace you'll be fine. So no I highly doubt they will be able to spam dodge forever. It's probably designed so if a boss makes a few scary moves back to back to back, the Warrior has an easier time of getting out of the way, as the class was designed to do, but after a few back to back dodges he's probably going to be out of stamina and will need to wait for it to recharge.

The mobs in the BG I'm skeptical about (scarred former Aion player, sorry). Dredgion was fun for what it was, but it was not a PvP BG like we all want - you did one of three things - PvE like any other dungeon the entire time and hope the enemy team doesn't find you, PvE race as fast as you can to get rid of the mobs so you can go find and kill the enemy team before they find you, or say [filtered] the mobs and skip them all, running straight to the enemy team (sometimes ended up in accidental trains because when mobs are every freaking where, it's hard to avoid and they hit hard). Or the fourth option you just train the entire time because you aren't better at PvP than the other team but if they're not skilled enough in dealing with trains they will lose even though they're better. It's very little PvP.

I'm going to remain open though lol (just wanted to write the above to reiterate how bad of an idea it is :D ) and hope that this is going to turn out well because so far EME and BHS have done a really good job.

PS - Dredgion was nothing like Alterac Valley. AV was gigantic, it's own zone in size almost, and had an insane amount of players which made the mobs a total non-issue. You'd race through so fast and people would just zerg down the mobs, they never got in your way. After that there was plenty of PvP to be had if you wanted it. Dredgion is like a regular PvE dungeon (not a big zone but a close quarters small dungeon) with hard hitting trash mobs placed very close together and a few actual bosses that dropped loot. Then just throw in two teams of 6 all clearing the very same PvE instance and fighting each other along the way. That's what it was.

It seems according to the thread that monsters are merely there to be killed for buffs, which I'm quite positive you use to kill the other players better.

Dredgions are completely different in that all of the objectives for the actual bg involves killing the monsters as fast as possible.

All it took was a bit of reading comprehension to evaluate that what they're planning is nowhere near a Dredgion.

Actually for PvP this could be bad depending on how fast it recharges, lancers already can get infinite mana for pvp situations resulting in infinite blocking if the stamina bar is tailored for PvE and its the only resource you have to block/dodges then survival for those 2 classes will be tied into it.

If they allow to fall back to mana/cooldown after its depleted then its a definitive PvP buff for both class and i guess we can all hail our new lancer overlords XD

Why are you guys acting like the Dredgion was not the best concept ever implemented in MMOs?

Quote: Ecchi on 04/04/2012, 07:48 AM - view

We must be crazy.