Quote: Jokael on 05/17/2012, 10:34 AM

Say you make bikes for a living and sell them in your neighborhood. You sell me one and a week later I noticed my buddy bought the same bike, but he paid $200 for extra awesomesauce rims that did not come with my bike.
I return to you and tell you to put those $200 awesomsauce rims on for free. Will you do it?

I'm loathe to get into this again, but I'll quickly dismiss this false analogy.

ONCE AGAIN, we are paying a sub for the game, not just a once off payment. A better analogy would therefore be: I'm renting a bike from you. After I've had it for a while you say you can add awesome rims to the bike for $10.

Why would I pay you to upgrade your own bike which I am already renting from you?

Quote: Crumplecorn on 05/17/2012, 10:31 AM

Stop it already, I will give you the same question as I gave the clown above you:

Say you make bikes for a living and sell them in your neighborhood. You sell me one and a week later I noticed my buddy bought the same bike, but he paid $200 for extra awesomesauce rims that did not come with my bike.
I return to you and tell you to put those $200 awesomsauce rims on for free. Will you do it?


Just because they could micro-transac anything in any game, including mobs does not mean any company will do that. Where gaming buisness is concerned, they will make more money by releasing special mobs in an expansion, because generally more people will buy an expansion rather then a content dungeon package.

It is all about profit, and the premium shop is an alternative money source for gaming industries now-a-days.

You can complain all you want, but the premium shops are here to stay in the gaming world, and as long as they are not clearly giving someone an advantage over others you have no justification for your complaints.

Say you make bikes for a living and sell them in your neighborhood. You sell me one and a week later I noticed my buddy bought the same bike, but he paid $200 for extra awesomesauce rims that did not come with my bike.
I return to you and tell you to put those $200 awesomsauce rims on for free. Will you do it?

Just because they could micro-transac anything in any game, including mobs does not mean any company will do that.

as long as they are not clearly giving someone an advantage over others you have no justification for your complaints.

Because you wouldn't be able to use said upgrade unless you did?

Quote: Jayrune on 05/17/2012, 10:43 AM

Because you wouldn't be able to use said upgrade unless you did?

Well this is where the line between the people with and without sense is drawn. Some of course will pay someone to upgrade their own bike. Others will try to convince them not to throw their money away. Such is life.

Quote: Spikoli on 05/17/2012, 09:46 AM

"A common type of reductio ad absurdum is proof by contradiction (also called indirect proof), where a proposition is proved true by proving that it is impossible for it to be false. That is to say, if A being false implies that B must also be false and it is known that B is true, then A cannot be false and therefore A is true."

Another application is to show an argument is invalid by feeding in accepted premises and showing the conclusion is false. Here, nothing is proven, an argument is merely shown to be invalid.



Example: 1. Anything optional is ok to microtransact

2. Skins are optional

3. Skins are ok to microtransact (from 1&2)



Reductio ad absurdum:

1. Anything can be made optional

2. Anything optional is ok to microtransact (1 from original argument)

3. Anything is ok to microtransact (from 1&2)



This relies on the following implicit premise:

0. Some things are not ok to microtransact

which contradicts 3, and which I think most/all people would agree with.



Nothing has been proven, a premise has instead been demonstrated to be false (negative proof?).



The idea that level of intelligence varies based on how early you get out of bed is intriguing. I suspect you couldn't match me at any time of day though.