BroseidonJC
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what is pvp
Symetry
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in order to determine anything we know with certainty, we first must doupt everything we know
Crosbie
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Naliya on 04/26/2012, 12:10 AM - view
SS didn't help "even the numbers" - if you counted 22 of us, watch the video from our perspective - there's at least 27-30 of them combined.
So whilst we appreciate your "research", perhaps you should do it after you've removed those rose tinted glasses and put out the torch you carry for them. "Research" isn't facts, neither is spreading lies and propaganda around to create guild drama.
We (RoE) have no issue with VO whatsoever. We may disagree with some of their tactics and things which they've done so far, but ultimately; that's their prerogrative.
You on the other hand sir, better walk around with some good company! I'd have high hopes that VO will shelter you, because after this, I'd rename your character, unless you plan on living inside a safe-zone. :)
Decided to do my own research on VO and looksie what I found...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2eITEHkePh4
VO had less numbers than RoE and SS helped to even the numbers out. RoE lying they were outnumbered...
SS didn't help "even the numbers" - if you counted 22 of us, watch the video from our perspective - there's at least 27-30 of them combined.
So whilst we appreciate your "research", perhaps you should do it after you've removed those rose tinted glasses and put out the torch you carry for them. "Research" isn't facts, neither is spreading lies and propaganda around to create guild drama.
We (RoE) have no issue with VO whatsoever. We may disagree with some of their tactics and things which they've done so far, but ultimately; that's their prerogrative.
You on the other hand sir, better walk around with some good company! I'd have high hopes that VO will shelter you, because after this, I'd rename your character, unless you plan on living inside a safe-zone. :)
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sticks and stones may break my bones but words will never hurt me
Crosbie
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Liar liar pants on fire!
Shiada
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Well their reactions are what earned them a spot on my [filtered] list. I don't care about your tactics I don't care who wins or loses gvgs while everyone is leveling (We participated in a few for fun but we weren't that concerned).
What does get you a spot on my [filtered] list?
Strike one: "from now on we are surrendering any GvG's against Guilds with less than 30/40 members since there's no point to play hide and seek with troll guilds"
Strike two: Talk major [filtered] (hold on hold on I like [filtered] talking just keep with me here) then follow up by screaming TROLL! whenever someone talks [filtered] back.
Strike three: Use underhanded tactics! (nope nope im still ok with this continue on) small guild uses them on you? TROLLS QQQQQQQ
What does get you a spot on my [filtered] list?
Strike one: "from now on we are surrendering any GvG's against Guilds with less than 30/40 members since there's no point to play hide and seek with troll guilds"
Strike two: Talk major [filtered] (hold on hold on I like [filtered] talking just keep with me here) then follow up by screaming TROLL! whenever someone talks [filtered] back.
Strike three: Use underhanded tactics! (nope nope im still ok with this continue on) small guild uses them on you? TROLLS QQQQQQQ
Calibix
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That video of VO v Avid is the only larger encounter encounter we lost all weekend (I lied, RoE star trekked the [filtered] out of us near Lumbertown, and butchered us in the pretend safe zone. I was salty at the time but looking back at it I laugh). Secondly, it doesn't show any griefing at all, nor would it since we only attack GvG, VO, and anyone who attacks us when grouped like that. It was before we were GvG with VO. We were trying to pick a fight with other GvG targets, and saw their group and on a whim decided to flag and try to kill them. As you can see we lost lol. It was kind of a cluster F---, half of us flagged and half of us didn't. We redeemed ourselves about 30m later though on the road to SM.
I don't understand all the VO bashing though. Yeah they wanted to start the alliance/tournament thingy and maybe have less than desirable tactics, but I don't see the point of flaming them on the boards over it. In larger encounters, one side is going to be outnumbered about 95% of the time, so complaining like that's cheating or a dirty tactic is just asinine when the shoe will be on the other foot at some point.
As an aside, I bought pretty much a brand new computer this week, so I'll be recording a lot. Look for yourself in my videos (rookie vid-maker!) if you run into me :p Picked up an i5-2500k, a Z77 MOBO, and 8GB RAM if anyone cares (still using my GTS 450, upgrade that in a month or so).
I don't understand all the VO bashing though. Yeah they wanted to start the alliance/tournament thingy and maybe have less than desirable tactics, but I don't see the point of flaming them on the boards over it. In larger encounters, one side is going to be outnumbered about 95% of the time, so complaining like that's cheating or a dirty tactic is just asinine when the shoe will be on the other foot at some point.
As an aside, I bought pretty much a brand new computer this week, so I'll be recording a lot. Look for yourself in my videos (rookie vid-maker!) if you run into me :p Picked up an i5-2500k, a Z77 MOBO, and 8GB RAM if anyone cares (still using my GTS 450, upgrade that in a month or so).
Edited by: Calibix
about 1 year ago
- Reason: Clarification
Symetry
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who likes turkey and stuffing sandwichs ?
Naliya
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mrnub on 04/26/2012, 01:50 AM - view
RoE showing more lies and deception and I like how you troll me, aka troll guild. Even your own screenshot shows it.. Not only do you circle more than twice in the cluster of VO to overcount.. eg: Lancers count as two people now? Your guild chat clearly shows more people haven't arrived yet, still needing invites etc. If you look at the youtube comments by Eziel posted well before I linked this he says "RoE started with 25-26 and 5 more came in 1 minute late." Based on your screenshot of your "25" and your guild chat talking about more coming, I'd believe him over yours especially when you overcount and overcircle. This would put you both even in numbers. How about you link that screenshot again without your giant [filtered] thick circles and let someone neutral count them for you.
Calibix on 04/26/2012, 05:02 AM
Like I said, in that video it shows you're in Outlaw and they're not. I still want to know why your Avid members post a video saying Xiis joined a fight when they were in it the whole time and trying to frame them. If I was spectating a 5v5 and one of your members was confused and attacked me, I'd retaliate too...
I've also listened to the linked meeting. Did anyone? They clearly had trolls they didn't know existed via Trials. People like "Ajax" who was referenced in Cutie Brigades reason for starting the GvG was kicked along with 10+ others. They're clearly sorting it out, they're a 1 week old guild with potential in my eyes and the fact that they are organising their 5v5 teams now, have a response team for dire GvG that is voted on. Eg: 20+ RoE ganking their lowbies, they have a rule to gather quickly to defend.. Is just good organisation vs. a guild with more members.
Everyone just needs to understand GvG is not organised PvP. Everything I've read involves "Cancerfacts", "Walton", "Bunna", "Joster", RoE Members, Avid Members and VO's Ex Members that were kicked for the reasons you [filtered] about and then quote as a pro complaint? It's those people and their guilds we need to worry about. I read people wanting to boycot the tournaments because of GvG when it's not even structured and again, I've linked videos of them having even numbers and less. The fact that you are trolling them so hard you're ruining the chance of this server being great because someone who is prepared to put A LOT of time into a tournament, who clearly has structure in their guild, who clearly created a website, forums, etc etc in under a week shows how dedicated they are.. You want them to not bother?
It's people like
Joster on 04/26/2012, 12:33 AM
Joster who just say things, then say it's "FACTS" and you believe them. They even falsify screenshots and only show you them gathering their numbers.
It's funny that everyone calls VO a zerg guild, where I've linked videos of even numbers, even less and exscuses from RoE / Avid fly of people not being Outlaw unorganised etc.
Seriously, your as bad as each other. The only thing is VO doesn't go into your forums or create threads and [filtered] talk about you. They don't even bother to defend themselves or post any evidence that is available.
Seighart. Stop sucking on VO's small e-peen. And who are you?
We were outnumbered. Get over it.
RoE showing more lies and deception and I like how you troll me, aka troll guild. Even your own screenshot shows it.. Not only do you circle more than twice in the cluster of VO to overcount.. eg: Lancers count as two people now? Your guild chat clearly shows more people haven't arrived yet, still needing invites etc. If you look at the youtube comments by Eziel posted well before I linked this he says "RoE started with 25-26 and 5 more came in 1 minute late." Based on your screenshot of your "25" and your guild chat talking about more coming, I'd believe him over yours especially when you overcount and overcircle. This would put you both even in numbers. How about you link that screenshot again without your giant [filtered] thick circles and let someone neutral count them for you.
Calibix on 04/26/2012, 05:02 AM
That video of VO v Avid is the only larger encounter encounter we lost all weekend (I lied, RoE star trekked the [filtered] out of us near Lumbertown, and butchered us in the pretend safe zone. I was salty at the time but looking back at it I laugh). Secondly, it doesn't show any griefing at all, nor would it since we only attack GvG, VO, and anyone who attacks us when grouped like that. It was before we were GvG with VO. We were trying to pick a fight with other GvG targets, and saw their group and on a whim decided to flag and try to kill them. As you can see we lost lol. It was kind of a cluster F---, half of us flagged and half of us didn't. We redeemed ourselves about 30m later though on the road to SM.
I don't understand all the VO bashing though. Yeah they wanted to start the alliance/tournament thingy and maybe have less than desirable tactics, but I don't see the point of flaming them on the boards over it. In larger encounters, one side is going to be outnumbered about 95% of the time, so complaining like that's cheating or a dirty tactic is just asinine when the shoe will be on the other foot at some point.
As an aside, I bought pretty much a brand new computer this week, so I'll be recording a lot. Look for yourself in my videos (rookie vid-maker!) if you run into me :p Picked up an i5-2500k, a Z77 MOBO, and 8GB RAM if anyone cares (still using my GTS 450, upgrade that in a month or so).
Like I said, in that video it shows you're in Outlaw and they're not. I still want to know why your Avid members post a video saying Xiis joined a fight when they were in it the whole time and trying to frame them. If I was spectating a 5v5 and one of your members was confused and attacked me, I'd retaliate too...
I've also listened to the linked meeting. Did anyone? They clearly had trolls they didn't know existed via Trials. People like "Ajax" who was referenced in Cutie Brigades reason for starting the GvG was kicked along with 10+ others. They're clearly sorting it out, they're a 1 week old guild with potential in my eyes and the fact that they are organising their 5v5 teams now, have a response team for dire GvG that is voted on. Eg: 20+ RoE ganking their lowbies, they have a rule to gather quickly to defend.. Is just good organisation vs. a guild with more members.
Everyone just needs to understand GvG is not organised PvP. Everything I've read involves "Cancerfacts", "Walton", "Bunna", "Joster", RoE Members, Avid Members and VO's Ex Members that were kicked for the reasons you [filtered] about and then quote as a pro complaint? It's those people and their guilds we need to worry about. I read people wanting to boycot the tournaments because of GvG when it's not even structured and again, I've linked videos of them having even numbers and less. The fact that you are trolling them so hard you're ruining the chance of this server being great because someone who is prepared to put A LOT of time into a tournament, who clearly has structure in their guild, who clearly created a website, forums, etc etc in under a week shows how dedicated they are.. You want them to not bother?
It's people like
Joster on 04/26/2012, 12:33 AM
I am going to set the record straight, take everything I say as fact, because it is.
1st encounter. RoE has 18 people, VO has around the same if not a couple more. (VO losses encounter, claims we have 25 people, fact: we had 18)
2nd encounter. RoE has 20 people, runs into Swarm, but RoE drops them like flies, before VO can get on the flank, foiled plan is foiled. (Swarm and VO flanking tactic fails, losses encounter, decides it's best to just group up)
3rd encounter. RoE re-inforces to 25 people, to pre-pare for VO/Swarm team-up, (VO/Swarm now outnumber us, 2-1, RoE losses fight) thus we have the video in the OP, which claims RoE has more poeple but truth is they don't.
So now that we know the FACTS, we can stop fighting about this stupid idotic [filtered], that doesn't really matter, because it is open beta and the only thing that matters is what happen's when we are all 60 and the game actually get's going.
Feel free to lock the thread Admin, since we have the facts now.
Joster who just say things, then say it's "FACTS" and you believe them. They even falsify screenshots and only show you them gathering their numbers.
It's funny that everyone calls VO a zerg guild, where I've linked videos of even numbers, even less and exscuses from RoE / Avid fly of people not being Outlaw unorganised etc.
Seriously, your as bad as each other. The only thing is VO doesn't go into your forums or create threads and [filtered] talk about you. They don't even bother to defend themselves or post any evidence that is available.
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OOOOOOOOOOOOOOLAAAAAAAAALA