Addons or dps meter?

Avylin Profile Options #31

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These are all secondary issues derived off of something necessary: having the ability to realistically measure your damage output.

What people do as a result of dps meter competitiveness is immaterial, these are people you decided to group with, and a form of measurement is critical unless you intend to do a lot of excel spreadsheet theorycrafting which may or may not be entirely accurate.

Raclen on 04/09/2012, 03:04 PM - view
Being a good tank is tough and it is very easy to see if a tank is bad.

Being a good healer is tough and it is very easy to see if a healer is bad.

Being a DPS with no DPS meter is a safe haven for bad players - let them have something.


This statement pretty much overrides any of the line of thinking that some dps who would stand in fire for more time on the boss should ruin it for everyone competent. Making a semi-serious group shouldn't be guesswork when it comes to dps.

You can SEE if a dps is being overly risky in order to bloat their dps by either talking with the healer or observing them dieing consistently. You cannot realistically SEE a 20% difference in dps between 2 or 3 members out of a 5 member party without a dps meter.
Edited by: Avylin about 1 year ago
Caydin Profile Options #32

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Is there really not going to be a dps meter in TERA? /cry

DPS meter is great way to gauge how well you are playing your class, if someone is pulling more dps than you, then they are a great person to learn from. Also it was never about taking specific classes over the other, it was about taking this player of X class over that player because that player sucked lol.
Gastalt Profile Options #33

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I'm actually glad that there won't be a DPS meter. It just means that people are going to have to pay attention during a dungeon instead of trying to get their internet e-peen hard by trying to pump out as much numbers as they can.
myskaal Profile Options #34

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Seriously people, no one and nothing is preventing you from gauging your own dps. If it is THAT important to you to know what your dps output is, there is a combat log. Parse it!

The truth about damage meters has absolutely nothing to do with trying to figure out how you yourself are doing. What you want is to measure yourself against other people and figure out how to out-perform them. Care-bear E-peen.

If you really want bragging rights - PvP. and do it well.

Hoyb Profile Options #35

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myskaal on 04/11/2012, 02:47 AM - view
Seriously people, no one and nothing is preventing you from gauging your own dps. If it is THAT important to you to know what your dps output is, there is a combat log. Parse it!

The truth about damage meters has absolutely nothing to do with trying to figure out how you yourself are doing. What you want is to measure yourself against other people and figure out how to out-perform them. Care-bear E-peen.

If you really want bragging rights - PvP. and do it well.


^ This.

I've played other games that have external 3rd party applications (freeware) for parsing combat logs and displaying the info all nice and pretty. While somewhat more tedious than having an addon in-game, this solution eliminates all of the cons posted, while allowing the pros for the legitimate min/maxers. If lack of a dps meter is an issue for even 1% of the population, someone will write a parser.
Caydin Profile Options #36

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Well lets just hope someone writes one. I always played a healer and don't plan on playing a dps, the dps meter has more uses than e-peen.
acessdenied Profile Options #37

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i agree, its total garbage dps meter, just imagine that scenario, boss, adds , tank,healer and dps, tank super busy with boss, healing trying keeping all alive, a add run at healer, someone will not CC because "that will down my dps" lol , not main language english, sorry about, but i guess you got the idea
Kreampie Profile Options #38

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I support Addons. DPS meters are great is used correctly.
its a great way to gauge over all performance of group / class / and ones self.
i would use it to find the perfect rotation for PVE but its kinda useless in PVP.

also how would you find your over all DPS in the combat text? i didn't see any time stamp

most people who cry about the DPS meter are usualy the people who put out very poor deeps
Kreampie Profile Options #39

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acessdenied on 04/13/2012, 02:52 PM - view
i agree, its total garbage dps meter, just imagine that scenario, boss, adds , tank,healer and dps, tank super busy with boss, healing trying keeping all alive, a add run at healer, someone will not CC because "that will down my dps" lol , not main language english, sorry about, but i guess you got the idea


If some one is that dumb to not CC because they were to busy looking at a Meter then they should have never been in your group in the first place and that would make it your fault not the meter's
Scape13 Profile Options #40

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I don't really like the idea of it. It breeds a lot of ignorant, rude, elitism players.

As a damage dealer, do you really need a meter to tell you that you should try better to maximize your damage? Shouldn't that be what you are always doing?