I've played GW2, or at least tried the Beta and it was nothing special IMO. It has similar gameplay to Tera but it isn't as appealing as Tera or as fulfilling. Its basically like an update gameplay-wise to WoW.
A corporate giant playing the playground bully. *feigns shock* This is a story that should be familiar to us all who have heard it before. NCSoft has been on top of the mountain for so long with games like GW and now that a competitor company has come forth with a game like Tera that could totally trump them they turn to the only thing they are now good at.
As far as I'm concerned, they've committed suicide with what they have done. Blizz Entertainment has done the same thing when they brought in new developers for WoW and released the Cata expansion. Making a game too easy for players only puts a timer on your game for the amount of time it has before players get bored. Take a note EME and BH! Do not make NCS and Blizz's mistakes!
No I don't hate NCSoft like some do for reasons that are irrelevant to this. BHS nor EME are "innocent" in any of this at all, I find it hilarious that they get defensive after Massively and other mmorpg news sites post "Korean court confirms guilty verdict in TERA criminal trial"
Like it or not but these people were/are part of TERA, and their theft of resources to help create TERA, at least initially, was confirmed. Now as the document went out of the way to address, this proceeding was only dealing the with individuals guilt or innocence and was NOT about BHE guilt or innocence. So yes, this particular proceeding didn't directly involve BHE, just some of the main founding members, but it is still a TERA related case. No idea why this is so hard for some people to understand.
EME can play their smallest violin as much as they want, the only ones sympathizing for them is their blind fans. (I mean really EME if you're going to lie, at least MAKE it seem like you have facts here)
To the fact that NCSoft hadn't filed any injunction in the US: It's ludicrous that the man even dared to challenge us to go and look for the paperwork, claiming that it didn't exist.
Ok quoting the relevant parts of the OP since you clearly didn't read it at all.
a) BHS and EME, according to the court, did not use any source code or game design from NCSoft in TERA.
b)TERA, BHS, and EME didn't even exist when the case was originally brought against the former NCSoft employees
c)BHS was NOT responsible for former NCSoft employees leaving the company.
d)The document you link is quoted in the OP (/facepalm). That is not an injunction, that is the original complaint where this started in the US. They have not filed any motions since then to try and halt the launch of TERA.
LongClaw on 04/18/2012, 04:14 PM
It is no surprise that the latest spin on the story has it that "TERA is guilty." That is wrong. For the record, after extensive Korean proceedings, Bluehole Studio was NOT found to have made any use of any NCsoft trade secrets in the form of source code or game design. In fact, TERA didn’t even exist when the Korean case against the former NCsoft employees arose, and neither did En Masse Entertainment. In Korean civil proceedings, Bluehole was also found NOT to have been responsible for the exodus of NCsoft developers.
Another fact: If you read NCsoft’s complaint, they actually admit that their motive in bringing the suit is to prevent Bluehole and En Masse from competing with them: "Since the release of TERA in Korea, NCsoft's Lineage sales and market share have declined, as have sales and market share of other NCsoft products."
- Unfair Competition
-Copyright Infringement
-NCSoft is able to file a motion at anytime (Leading to an immediate injunction)
*You ALWAYS file a complaint first when you go to court, not a motion. You file a motion during the course of a court proceeding to get an immediate judicial decision on some sub-action related to the case, such as a motion for a retrial or motion to compel.
I mean, all they have to do is tell the truth:
"Yea, we have a bit of drama going on with NCSoft and had a few bad apples taken care of, were currently working with the supreme court to get things situated and NCSoft off our backs to have some stuff that was in the game taken out, will this effect you guys? No! you still get your game, just slightly changed." ~EME
I mean really, this community is so quick to lap up anything EME says as pure fact don't forget that you've been lied to by this company as much as NCSoft: http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=28j88xg&s=5
Edited by: Arkwright
about 1 year ago
- Reason: final comment on this subject as I'm being threatened by blind fanboys and mods to STFU.
They are telling the truth - the court found EME and BHS not guilty of using NCSoft's trade secrets in the game. You're pulling stuff outta your [filtered] with no quotes to back it up.
roflcake there are rly scared about Tera Launch. Well they should, since GW2 just suck so badly,
It's not GW2 you should be worrying about. It's Blade & Soul. Blade & Soul will most likely de-rail TERA pretty good.
Hi, have you tried Blade & Soul? It's another typical NCSOFT game with little content and a lot of bare lands.
Yes, i have, ignorant fool. And you don't know what you're talking about moron. The game is still in KR Beta and it has alot going for it. It's not a bunch or barelands and little content. Go research some more. And btw, NCsoft didn't make it, Team BloodLust did.
Research? Try playing it. The only thing you research is a bunch of fans overhyping it and NCSOFT marketing it the way they want you to see it.
I've played the KR BETA and it is BAD. The environment is copy and pasted, bare and bland. There is NO content. It's hack and slash period. All of you little fanboys can say all you want, but it's been done for every NCSOFT games and the same argument is used every time: "it's only in beta, of course there's no content." So why did TERA's closed beta have 10x more content than Blade & Soul? Why did RIFT's beta have 10x more content than Blade & Soul?
Fanboys should stick to their game, not go on other games' forum to rant about how great their game is.
Irony is that this game is westernized under ex-NCSoft employees and the main guy who ruined AION Brian Knoxx..
Hey he was working for NCFail and as well all know they didn't let NCWest do much of anything. He's done a lot of great stuff at EME and has more than proven himself. Hate on NCSoft, don't hate on the innocent victims stuck in their web of suckiness. He was smart to get out as early as he did.
No I don't hate NCSoft like some do for reasons that are irrelevant to this. BHS nor EME are "innocent" in any of this at all, I find it hilarious that they get defensive after Massively and other mmorpg news sites post "Korean court confirms guilty verdict in TERA criminal trial"
Like it or not but these people were/are part of TERA, and their theft of resources to help create TERA, at least initially, was confirmed. Now as the document went out of the way to address, this proceeding was only dealing the with individuals guilt or innocence and was NOT about BHE guilt or innocence. So yes, this particular proceeding didn't directly involve BHE, just some of the main founding members, but it is still a TERA related case. No idea why this is so hard for some people to understand.
EME can play their smallest violin as much as they want, the only ones sympathizing for them is their blind fans. (I mean really EME if you're going to lie, at least MAKE it seem like you have facts here)
To the fact that NCSoft hadn't filed any injunction in the US: It's ludicrous that the man even dared to challenge us to go and look for the paperwork, claiming that it didn't exist.
The problem with your source is any lawyer or lawschool student could easily create this on the web if they felt it would create a backlash against EME and BHS. You shouldn't trust everything you read so readily, especially since there don't seem to be any other sources claiming validity to the claims made against EME and BHS by NCSoft. Its nice that you went through the trouble to find papers like this but as a lawschool student I can easily state that these could very easily be falsified documents. That is the problem with the internet. Documents like this, so readily available to the public for legal documents that are supposed to be private, can easily be forged by those with the know-how and I find it very conspicuous that these documents are floating around the net when you shouldn't even be able to find the exact document on a legal website. These are supposed to be for court and lawyer eyes only and yet here they are for the public to see. That doesn't come across as strange to you?
I would suggest you don't dismiss that everyone who doesn't agree with your opinion is blind and perhaps take a look in the mirror. Or better yet, take the plank out of your own eye before trying to pull the splinter from others' eyes. Okay?
Furthermore, news sites are not innocent of posting rumors floating about the internet. Nor are they innocent of posting what companies may or may not pay them to say either. This can be demonstrated by how ever lawmakers and other companies can bribe or coax national media from with-holding a story or broadcasting a story how they deem necessary. The news in all it's forms is not beyond being bent to the will of the highest bidder.
Now, is it possible that EME is guilty? Yes, it is. But I am not inclined to believe everything I read. For now, however, with the facts I have come across myself I do not see EME or BHS as the guilty party here. It would not surprise me either if NCSoft went to the lengths suggested in the OP.
Just my 2 cents worth. But perhaps in the future don't go after people with such a fierce opinion.
On the subject of stealing from NCSoft, I wish I could steal back the hours of my life I spent playing their garbage games, hoping against all reason that they might somehow get better and that they'd eventually do something about the bots...
On the subject of stealing from NCSoft, I wish I could steal back the hours of my life I spent playing their garbage games, hoping against all reason that they might somehow get better and that they'd eventually do something about the bots...
Ding, ding, ding. This is the reason why I despise NCSOFT so much. I stuck with L2 for 2 years and kept telling my guildmates NCSOFT will get their acts together to no avail. I stuck with AION for a year and kept telling my guildmates NCSOFT will get their acts together and look where that's gone.
Anybody with common sense can put 1 and 1 together and figure out that obviously TERA has some ideas from the supposedly L3. However, you can get ideas from anywhere. If NCSOFT can't produce the facts that shows BHS using assets stolen from L3, then there is no case. There is no law that says you can't take your talents to another company. You just can't take Intellectual Property with you.