Not at all, I don't think anyone is that, I can accept peoples opinions about the changes being negative if they provide some kind of reasoning other than "Wtf cancelling my preorder," "I know what the majority of people want," "They are ruining their own game." etc etc. I prefer to have an intellectual argument rather than someone just saying lolurwrongitsucks. There have been a lot of negatives that have been brought up about it, which I fully understand and even agree with, however we can't always focus on the negatives, and instead must look at the larger picture about why these decisions have been made.
And the poster under me also makes some great points that are being overlooked by many.
Player shops AND a broker would split the community of buyers/sellers. It should be one or the other.
In this case the player shop is an outdated and old technology. The broker is faster and easier to use. Player shops are NEAT. Thats all they are, just something thats "Oh look, a cute bunny is selling something".
I would MUCH rather spend 5 minutes searching a broker then spending 20 minutes searching player shops.
The community needs to accept this and move on. One or the other; in this case the newer, faster version that appeals to a wider audience is the best choice for the game.
Now the boxes, as long as they raise overall drops (which it sounds like they did) I am in favor of removing the mischeif boxes.
BoP - GOOD. I hate it that gold BUYERS can just buy the best BoE and circumvent the grind I go through. You think it builds a community by giving players/friends/guildies items? You know what builds a better community? Running that person through the dungeon, making an alt and leveling with them, actually interacting with them instead of you doing all the work and someone else just buying the hard earned reward.
The more and more I read about and experience Tera the more and more excited I get to embrace this game as my new hobby.
92 pages, can we find something better to do? I think every possible opinion has already been expressed here. We'll have to wait and see what they decide. You're voices have been heard. Either they'll change it back, or you'll swallow the pill and move on.
Player shops AND a broker would split the community of buyers/sellers. It should be one or the other.
In this case the player shop is an outdated and old technology. The broker is faster and easier to use. Player shops are NEAT. Thats all they are, just something thats "Oh look, a cute bunny is selling something".
I would MUCH rather spend 5 minutes searching a broker then spending 20 minutes searching player shops.
The community needs to accept this and move on. One or the other; in this case the newer, faster version that appeals to a wider audience is the best choice for the game.
Now the boxes, as long as they raise overall drops (which it sounds like they did) I am in favor of removing the mischeif boxes.
BoP - GOOD. I hate it that gold BUYERS can just buy the best BoE and circumvent the grind I go through. You think it builds a community by giving players/friends/guildies items? You know what builds a better community? Running that person through the dungeon, making an alt and leveling with them, actually interacting with them instead of you doing all the work and someone else just buying the hard earned reward.
The more and more I read about and experience Tera the more and more excited I get to embrace this game as my new hobby.
EXCELLENT CHANGES ALL AROUND! +9001
Ronnie if you want a WOW clone go play wow. The changes are awful. This game is looking great because its different.
And the poster under me also makes some great points that are being overlooked by many.
Except all of those points have been brought up before and countered with great points from the other side. You just have to dig through 90+ pages to find them.
And the poster under me also makes some great points that are being overlooked by many.
Except all of those points have been brought up before and countered with great points from the other side. You just have to dig through 90+ pages to find them.
Hence, overlooked by people who refuse to listen or consider them, or who have not heard them before because they do not want to read through 90 pages.
So they responded with more beating around the bush comments. I guess we can all say good-bye to pets, boxes and a decent game we all hoped for.
GG EME for starting a trend of changes that destroy the game. You should really reconsider a lot of these changes and possibly fire the person who is making these final decisions.
1. Less lag (less unnecessary players being logged in while sleeping and graphics lag)
2. Less scams and duping (most dupe techniques occurs with player private stores)
BoP
1. Less RMTs and bots farming normal mobs or world bosses
Player shops AND a broker would split the community of buyers/sellers. It should be one or the other.
In this case the player shop is an outdated and old technology. The broker is faster and easier to use. Player shops are NEAT. Thats all they are, just something thats "Oh look, a cute bunny is selling something".
I would MUCH rather spend 5 minutes searching a broker then spending 20 minutes searching player shops.
The community needs to accept this and move on. One or the other; in this case the newer, faster version that appeals to a wider audience is the best choice for the game.
Now the boxes, as long as they raise overall drops (which it sounds like they did) I am in favor of removing the mischeif boxes.
BoP - GOOD. I hate it that gold BUYERS can just buy the best BoE and circumvent the grind I go through. You think it builds a community by giving players/friends/guildies items? You know what builds a better community? Running that person through the dungeon, making an alt and leveling with them, actually interacting with them instead of you doing all the work and someone else just buying the hard earned reward.
The more and more I read about and experience Tera the more and more excited I get to embrace this game as my new hobby.
EXCELLENT CHANGES ALL AROUND! +9001
If anybody argues against this, they are either an RMT themselves or just want to enlarge their online ego by placing the rare they found in their private store so that everyone can see they were the "first" to get it. Private stores does absolutely nothing positive for the game. BoP does absolutely nothing to break the game. Players will still heavily rely on the AH for consumables, crafted items, materials, and enchantments. BoP does not relieve the RMT issues by a whole lot, but at least it stops the RMT farmers and certain players from monopolizing world bosses since they can't sell the "ultra rare weapon or armor". There are a million other ways to make money in the game.
Enmasse gets it. I never played WOW and refuse to, but don't cry about games "cloning" WOW. There is a reason why WOW have the most subscriptions EVER for an MMO. Please just don't dumb this game down and make it ridiculously easy. The grind is not a problem if the combat and content is fun, which it is.
if anybody argues against this, they are either an RMT themselves or just want to enlarge their online ego by placing the rare they found in their private store so that everyone can see they were the "first" to get it. Private stores does absolutely nothing positive for the game.
Maybe you should go to past 90 pages, few other threads and european forums and at least trying reading, before spewing out nonsensenses, especially about RMT ?
Your claim is like if you said, that world cannot function without ebay, while supermakets and small local shops are obsolete.
There's no economy split thing - no such thing ever happend in any game up to date where both systems were available, not mentioning real world outside the window.
The simply complement each other. In games - AH by the nature of their convenience and people's laziness become automatically the major system, with shops playing supportive role - with obvious advantages and disadvantages. And looking at past examples, pretty well.
AH - globality, convenience, sorting, but also taxed, no buying, fixed quantity, limited availability
shops - locality, independence, no extra fees, no quantity constraints, more personal, reachable in more places
Your whole line of reasoning is pretty much: "I'm too lazy to check shops, so player shops must be removed, just in case I would lose something worthwhile from a game feature I'm too lazy to bother to begin with". Ebay or gtfo - in a nuthshell.
And stopping RMT is company's job. Making the game more primitive is not a solution. RMT will be everywhere. They will form clans to simplify their life (let's remove clans ?). They will use AH (in more subtle ways than most even realize - so let's remove that as well ?). This is ridiculous pseudo reason. Get a [filtered] GM in the game or get some tool coded to get shops listed without even having to get log, and do the damn job. Properly, for once.
The producers here produce "classic" nonsenses about "battling RMT" that cripple the game bit by bit, with - IP blocks and their excuse being technically (and not only technically) a facepalm, hypocritical chronoscrolls (which will unlikely work in Tera, as "time" commodity is worth a dime only as long), switching to BoP, removing shops and so on. And always consider they have more awesome "ideas" and "improvements" they are planning to say about later (probably as late as possible).
One would have hoped that ex-NC people would know better about the need to do the job properly when it comes to RMT, but then again - they are ex-NC for a reason, apparently - with still no clue how organized RMT even operates. Or ... knowing very well and waiting for them with open arms.
Changes that would break the game ? Of course they won't. You can remove far more elements and the game will generally not break. It will just become a watered down simpleton. After all - everything existing can be consired "obsolete, old mechanics from old games" and removed from the game for the greater good of players with attention span of an amoeba.
As for WoW comments, sorry but - the only aim that ex-Aion team of producers here have is to essentially have a game as humanly similar to WoW as possible, with anything different or unknown removed or watered down - so average "westerner" doesn't feel confused or inconvenienced.