Quote: Mondu on 04/12/2012, 05:44 AM

I quit SWTOR because it lacked a LFD tool.

I played on a server that started off with a heavy population. Over time the population dropped to standard, and then finally to light. It got to the point where the average population on the republic fleet was less than 20 at the times I played. So I was forced to restart on another server. On the new server, I still experienced difficulty forming groups. After getting to 50 and maxing my character, I quit the game. The reason? I did not want to have to go through the difficulty in forming groups for Flashpoints again.

Prior to SWTOR, I played Rift. Looking back, the LFD tool in that game was a glorious thing. Being queued for a dungeon while questing is a very liberating experience. Often times, I'd queue with people I met while questing. So I don't understand where this lack of community criticism is coming from.

If LFD tools are so bad, why does WOW have millions upon millions of players?

Because Blizzard really can sell their product. If you think having millions of ppl makes a game better than another , go play wow then. Wow has been becoming a noob game since early / mid tbc. Players will play it for as long as blizzards desires. Doesnt make wow better than any other MMORPG

Quote: Youthm on 04/12/2012, 10:20 AM

Quote: Mondu on 04/12/2012, 05:44 AM

I quit SWTOR because it lacked a LFD tool.

I played on a server that started off with a heavy population. Over time the population dropped to standard, and then finally to light. It got to the point where the average population on the republic fleet was less than 20 at the times I played. So I was forced to restart on another server. On the new server, I still experienced difficulty forming groups. After getting to 50 and maxing my character, I quit the game. The reason? I did not want to have to go through the difficulty in forming groups for Flashpoints again.

Prior to SWTOR, I played Rift. Looking back, the LFD tool in that game was a glorious thing. Being queued for a dungeon while questing is a very liberating experience. Often times, I'd queue with people I met while questing. So I don't understand where this lack of community criticism is coming from.

If LFD tools are so bad, why does WOW have millions upon millions of players?

Because Blizzard really can sell their product. If you think having millions of ppl makes a game better than another , go play wow then. Wow has been becoming a noob game since early / mid tbc. Players will play it for as long as blizzards desires. Doesnt make wow better than any other MMORPG

Marketing, gets people in the door. The product itself keeps people coming back. If marketing is the reason a game does well, why did DC Universe have to go pay to play? Why did the number of people on the SWTOR servers decline so fast?

Look, I'll admit, some people probably left Wow due to the LFD tool, but you have to admit that probably an equal (if not greater) amount stayed because of the same tool.

WoW is extremely popular. If a company wants to take some WoWs subscribers, they will have to provide some of the tools that the WoW player base has come to expect, the LFD tool being one of them. Unless you're suggesting En Masse go only after the hard core gaming crowd. Going after the hard core crowd severely limits the number of possible customers, so I don't think that's very feasible.

Going back to my original post, the LFD tool would make it so that I wouldn't have to experience the difficulty in forming a dungeon group on a low population server like I did in SWTOR. This is the main reason I want the LFD tool. So many people say that the LFD tool is terrible. How about we all wait and see how successful this game is before trying to remove a useful tool. It's possible that there won't be that many people playing in this game. If so, the cross server LFD tool may be the only way to create a group in a reasonable amount of time.

Hell, the only problem I have with the LFD tool is that it doesn't let you use it with a full group.

Marketing, gets people in the door. The product itself keeps people coming back. If marketing is the reason a game does well, why did DC Universe have to go pay to play? Why did the number of people on the SWTOR servers decline so fast?

Look, I'll admit, some people probably left Wow due to the LFD tool, but you have to admit that probably an equal (if not greater) amount stayed because of the same tool.

WoW is extremely popular. If a company wants to take some WoWs subscribers, they will have to provide some of the tools that the WoW player base has come to expect, the LFD tool being one of them. Unless you're suggesting En Masse go only after the hard core gaming crowd. Going after the hard core crowd severely limits the number of possible customers, so I don't think that's very feasible.

Going back to my original post, the LFD tool would make it so that I wouldn't have to experience the difficulty in forming a dungeon group on a low population server like I did in SWTOR. This is the main reason I want the LFD tool. So many people say that the LFD tool is terrible. How about we all wait and see how successful this game is before trying to remove a useful tool. It's possible that there won't be that many people playing in this game. If so, the cross server LFD tool may be the only way to create a group in a reasonable amount of time.

Hell, the only problem I have with the LFD tool is that it doesn't let you use it with a full group.

For a game that bashes other MMO's (WoW included), they sure do seem to be trying to make it more like WoW, or Rift or any other MMO(I hate that WoW has become the MMO Genre). It's turning into; the only different aspect of this game is the manual targeting. The advertisments push it's idea like TERA is like no MMO around, yet the closer it gets to release the closer it resembles every other MMO.

They don't bash other MMOs, they have said MMOs in general have boring repetitive combat. But no video of their MMO-FO thing ever targeted specific MMOs to bash. And they have been touting their combat because it is the first MMO to do combat like an action game.

Do you even think before you post?

Quote: Nitzleplick on 04/12/2012, 03:11 PM

They don't bash other MMOs, they have said MMOs in general have boring repetitive combat. But no video of their MMO-FO thing ever targeted specific MMOs to bash. And they have been touting their combat because it is the first MMO to do combat like an action game.

Uhhh...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClDELJubox4

Quote: Nitzleplick on 04/12/2012, 03:11 PM

Do you even think before you post?

I chuckled.

Goes back to my previous post, please re-read it again.