100% HP pots + pvp

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Ahmon on 03/17/2012, 06:51 PM - view
Socio on 03/17/2012, 06:19 PM

Ok, so give him HP crystals like I use, and how much more life would he have healed than me? A possible ~48k at max efficiency. Taking flat numbers with the amount of variables based on gear, crystals, and time of use (percentage of life when used, rather) is a dumb argument when the potions are using percentages. You pretty much proved the point that I outplayed him though since the total life healed was still less, and I still ended with near full life when he died due to having to keep up with his pots.

You can twist it any way you like, I used 3 potions that heal for a lesser amount than the 4 he used. He has better gear that does more damage than my gear as you can clearly see by the gear rating of 146 vs my 142.

Did I play perfectly and not make any mistakes? No. But I still played better than he did, and almost lost due to FULL HEAL pot spamming.

If he'd had PVP gear, he would have won. End of story. Your gear was better than his for the situation. Stop saying 142 vs. 146 as if it means anything.

Also, he started fighting at 85% HP. It's amazing how little difference in healing there was in the fight - the main difference is that when you got low you could pop a potion to heal. Meanwhile, similar combos on him were forcing him to potion earlier.

Simply put, you did not outplay him. Well, mostly. He did make more mistakes than you, but your gear is what carried you for the most part.


Uhm...I don't have PvP gear either? 3 HP crystals =/= PvP gear, crazy I know.

Do you just make [filtered] up as you go to try and make yourself look right? Because that's what it seems like. :/

Also lol @ everyone that thinks spamming full heal pots makes for good gameplay no matter how they're obtained.

I'm done arguing with people that have no clue what they're talking about. :(

Edit: Oh, and everyone says "they're just event items, they're just event items, they won't be around all that much!" but noone has shown a source for this info yet. If they're obtainable once per year or something then whatever, but I kinda doubt that's the case with the frequency I've seen them used.
Edited by: Socio about 1 year ago
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Socio on 03/17/2012, 10:47 PM - view
Ahmon on 03/17/2012, 06:51 PM
Socio on 03/17/2012, 06:19 PM

Ok, so give him HP crystals like I use, and how much more life would he have healed than me? A possible ~48k at max efficiency. Taking flat numbers with the amount of variables based on gear, crystals, and time of use (percentage of life when used, rather) is a dumb argument when the potions are using percentages. You pretty much proved the point that I outplayed him though since the total life healed was still less, and I still ended with near full life when he died due to having to keep up with his pots.

You can twist it any way you like, I used 3 potions that heal for a lesser amount than the 4 he used. He has better gear that does more damage than my gear as you can clearly see by the gear rating of 146 vs my 142.

Did I play perfectly and not make any mistakes? No. But I still played better than he did, and almost lost due to FULL HEAL pot spamming.

If he'd had PVP gear, he would have won. End of story. Your gear was better than his for the situation. Stop saying 142 vs. 146 as if it means anything.

Also, he started fighting at 85% HP. It's amazing how little difference in healing there was in the fight - the main difference is that when you got low you could pop a potion to heal. Meanwhile, similar combos on him were forcing him to potion earlier.

Simply put, you did not outplay him. Well, mostly. He did make more mistakes than you, but your gear is what carried you for the most part.


Uhm...I don't have PvP gear either? 3 HP crystals =/= PvP gear, crazy I know.

Do you just make [filtered] up as you go to try and make yourself look right? Because that's what it seems like. :/

I never said you were wearing PVP gear. I said you were wearing better gear for the situation.

Your vid is awful, you probably suck at PVP and you got carried. It's okay, lots of noobs think they're hard for barely killing easy targets.
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Yeah too busy to read whole thread so dunno if people already talked about them but the 100% HP pots are "Symon's Stolen Soup" Just looted some in TERA EU. They drop from the chest event scattered around the world. I dunno if these are the only ones or not but just looted some.
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IMO most HP potions what can be used in fight should be removed. As I noticed most powerfull of them may be very expensive, but still it create situation where player with them is in too big advantage.
HP potions are for make PvP longer, but I do not think it is made by correct way. Spam HP potions is not skill, not fun. But with removing HP potions should also overall dmg in PvP be reduced.
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Ahmon on 03/17/2012, 11:18 PM - view

I never said you were wearing PVP gear. I said you were wearing better gear for the situation.

Your vid is awful, you probably suck at PVP and you got carried. It's okay, lots of noobs think they're hard for barely killing easy targets.


So if he has a higher gear level than me, neither of us are in PvP gear, and I still beat him using less pots that heal less life that means I'm somehow playing with the advantage? Wat. DAMN YOU FOR USING 3 HP CRYSTALS, DAMN YOU!

Let me know when you make some videos to see how good you are in comparison since I'm so [filtered]. :D

DrGonzo on 03/17/2012, 11:46 PM
Yeah too busy to read whole thread so dunno if people already talked about them but the 100% HP pots are "Symon's Stolen Soup" Just looted some in TERA EU. They drop from the chest event scattered around the world. I dunno if these are the only ones or not but just looted some.


Thanks, I'll try to look em up. If they drop in chests around the world though, that does in fact mean they're readily available to people to farm and sell. Something to keep in mind.
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DrGonzo, could you take a screenshot to host somewhere of them in game? Curious if these are the same thing or not for sure, as they are not listed on the codex as far as I can see. These two are all I found that heal 100%.

http://teracodex.com/item.php?id=5174

http://teracodex.com/item.php?id=5176
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I think the Point that many people are missing is simply this :

. Nobody gives a [filtered] who pvped better and who had better gear. The guys trying to make a point that healing with the way potions do right now is unbalanced and silly. There has to be some sort of cd on FULL HP potions. Simple. People are twisting and derailing this thread into somthing its not. Stop trying to troll and shut up if u have nothing intelligent to say!
Edited by: MrIeader about 1 year ago
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Socio on 03/17/2012, 02:04 AM - view
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_04xzxkW10

You mean like these?

Let's see...pots at...(times listed between each pot and the previous 100% heal pot)


They should just disable the use of those quest pots during pvp combat. Having to burn the same bad player down 4 times when you're obviously better is just bull sh*t. I mean I use those pots when questing & in emergency situations in PvE, but to use them in PvP is just cowardly.
Edited by: Doppelz about 1 year ago
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Not sure if anyone came up with the name but here it is

Symon's Stolen Soup

They seem to come out of Fortune Eggs, Treasure Chests (EU), and not sure what else.

It is a full heal on a 30 sec timer. A simple change to 3 min would work nicely for these pots though the real question is can/will they make this change just to PvP servers or would it be across the board only.
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Socio on 03/18/2012, 04:35 AM - view
Ahmon on 03/17/2012, 11:18 PM

I never said you were wearing PVP gear. I said you were wearing better gear for the situation.

Your vid is awful, you probably suck at PVP and you got carried. It's okay, lots of noobs think they're hard for barely killing easy targets.


So if he has a higher gear level than me, neither of us are in PvP gear, and I still beat him using less pots that heal less life that means I'm somehow playing with the advantage? Wat. DAMN YOU FOR USING 3 HP CRYSTALS, DAMN YOU!

Let me know when you make some videos to see how good you are in comparison since I'm so [filtered]. :D

You beat him using the same amount of potion, healing the same amount of life. The point is that despite all your carping on the video, you exploited the system to the exact same extent that he did. You enjoyed all the advantages in the fight because of your preparations, and used just as much potion as your opponent did. Quit whining and believing that you were somehow a clearly superior player, as that's not what the video shows.
Edited by: Ahmon about 1 year ago