100% HP pots + pvp

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Seriously Ahmon keep your mouth closed. The drivel coming out of it is only making you look more foolish. Socio forced him to use 2 pots before he even used 1. Instantaneous pots are always better than hots even if heal is same, if he was hit at all wile pot was ticking after using he would die.
If you had a point your stupid attempts to bash the OP completely destroyed it so move along.

Back to the actual post I agree with OP there needs to be an extended cooldown on these kinda pots. I mean really ppl think if this is how pots ended up any non dps class wouldn't ever kill anyone in pvp.
Edited by: Arami about 1 year ago
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StayOnTarget on 03/16/2012, 04:34 PM - view
If you even pop one in pvp its bad period. I can live with getting jumped and dieing but seeing someone win by pot is BS. It needs to go.


i know what you mean. i hate seeing people win by using their skills. only scrubs will use skills. the pro's only use their combo attack.

that's how much sense you make with this argument.

pot's are a part of the game. you can use them as easily as anyone else and when used corectly (just like any other skill) they can turn the battle around.
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Synner on 03/18/2012, 10:45 AM - view
StayOnTarget on 03/16/2012, 04:34 PM
If you even pop one in pvp its bad period. I can live with getting jumped and dieing but seeing someone win by pot is BS. It needs to go.


i know what you mean. i hate seeing people win by using their skills. only scrubs will use skills. the pro's only use their combo attack.

that's how much sense you make with this argument.

pot's are a part of the game. you can use them as easily as anyone else and when used corectly (just like any other skill) they can turn the battle around.


but it's not a skill. it's a consumable, with varying power, that you have to craft/buy, sink time and money into it, and make sure to have many on hand, and off cooldown.

someone with a few 50-75% potions effectively has 2-3 lives; it's just dumb. can't imagine going up against one of those try hard guilds in a group fight and they are all spamming their 75% potions, turning a 5v5 into a 15v5.

and the guy made plenty of sense, as there are many games out there where using potions in a duel is very much frowned upon. potions 10% as strong, and 10x more common than these.

powerful, not easily obtainable consumables add nothing to PvP, and just force players to grind (even more) or they'll be at a huge disadvantage.
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Tera is a PvE game foremost before its a PvP game, even on a PvP server. You cannot go around that lol.
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Arami on 03/18/2012, 09:51 AM - view
Seriously Ahmon keep your mouth closed. The drivel coming out of it is only making you look more foolish. Socio forced him to use 2 pots before he even used 1. Instantaneous pots are always better than hots even if heal is same, if he was hit at all wile pot was ticking after using he would die.
If you had a point your stupid attempts to bash the OP completely destroyed it so move along.

Shut your [filtered], idiot. The facts are on my side. The Castanic was forced to use just as much potion as the Elin in the video provided. The instant heal potions were obviously not better in the situation, as they healed for the same or far less than a heal over time would have in two instances. Neither player was preparing to finish off the other - they were launching their best attacks as they became available as far as I can tell.
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Tidwell on 03/18/2012, 11:37 AM - view
but it's not a skill. it's a consumable, with varying power, that you have to craft/buy, sink time and money into it, and make sure to have many on hand, and off cooldown.

someone with a few 50-75% potions effectively has 2-3 lives; it's just dumb. can't imagine going up against one of those try hard guilds in a group fight and they are all spamming their 75% potions, turning a 5v5 into a 15v5.

and the guy made plenty of sense, as there are many games out there where using potions in a duel is very much frowned upon. potions 10% as strong, and 10x more common than these.

powerful, not easily obtainable consumables add nothing to PvP, and just force players to grind (even more) or they'll be at a huge disadvantage.


A) same can be said about better gear

B) he said nothing about "duels"

C) no one said you have to use them. dont. just means youre an easy kill for me cause i will pot.

I plan to use every advantage i have whether its pots, scrolls, pigeons or monkeys in little bell hop suits.
Edited by: Synner about 1 year ago
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i just think it's silly because people need to use them inorder to not die? like dying is a penalty?

idk, I personally don't use them in PvP because there is nothing to lose for dying... so when I see my opponent spam potions like a king - if I end up eventually dying, who cares? he just wasted a handful of potions, and I still proved that I'm better than him... so /shrug - I guess we both end up feeling like we won that fight, and lived happily ever after.




I just personally don't feel the need to use them in PvP unless there is actually something riding on the match... i.e. if it's like 5v5's for gear or something.
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Ahmon on 03/18/2012, 01:49 PM - view

Shut your [filtered], idiot. The facts are on my side. The Castanic was forced to use just as much potion as the Elin in the video provided. The instant heal potions were obviously not better in the situation, as they healed for the same or far less than a heal over time would have in two instances. Neither player was preparing to finish off the other - they were launching their best attacks as they became available as far as I can tell.


Yep, because using 2 less potions that heal for 25% less total health each = the same amount of potions.

Healing from 5.3% to 100% (94.7% heal)
24.4% to 100% (75.6% heal)
8.2% to 100% (91.8% heal)
12.5% to 100% (87.5% heal)
and 42.5% to 100% (57.5% heal)

Means his potions were worse than my 3 75% heal pots. Only one instant in this case is considered worse than one of the 75% HoT potions.

Having worse gear = being at a gear advantage. (142 vs 146, neither in PvP gear)

And because I was clearly red the entire time means I was at the advantage because he didn't want to fight. (He could've kept running if he wanted.)

Facts are sooo in your favor it's astounding. You don't have to agree with the thread or my argument, but stating that facts are in your favor is completely ridiculous.

Also you apparently haven't played or know much about Sorcerer, seeing as though we won't burst anything down from full life without being able to use Fireblast. Which in turn requires being able to use Time Gyre generally to keep them in place long enough to cast it; and that is on a minute cooldown.

Oh well. Hopefully EME understands where we're coming from, especially if they take a look at the video. Once again, I'm okay with consumables even being necessary to some extent. But they need a cooldown that's manageable, not that promotes potion spamming to the point of having to kill through someone's lifebar 5+ times. I couldn't imagine fighting a healer and/or lancer with these. 100% impossible to ever win.
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Socio on 03/18/2012, 05:02 AM - view
DrGonzo, could you take a screenshot to host somewhere of them in game? Curious if these are the same thing or not for sure, as they are not listed on the codex as far as I can see. These two are all I found that heal 100%.

http://teracodex.com/item.php?id=5174

http://teracodex.com/item.php?id=5176


The icon looks like a bowl of soup. (Ill get a screen in about an hour when EU beta goes down)

And also, they arent tradable or able to sell.

I've gotten 4 total killing every chest I see while leveling 1-29 for a little perspective on rarity. Seems like a 10% drop or so.

I literally got like 8 more of these since the post in about 14 chests. So they are actually pretty damn common.
Edited by: DrGonzo about 1 year ago
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DrGonzo on 03/18/2012, 02:57 PM - view
Socio on 03/18/2012, 05:02 AM
DrGonzo, could you take a screenshot to host somewhere of them in game? Curious if these are the same thing or not for sure, as they are not listed on the codex as far as I can see. These two are all I found that heal 100%.

http://teracodex.com/item.php?id=5174

http://teracodex.com/item.php?id=5176


The icon looks like a bowl of soup. (Ill get a screen in about an hour when EU beta goes down)

And also, they arent tradable or able to sell.

I've gotten 4 total killing every chest I see while leveling 1-29 for a little perspective on rarity. Seems like a 10% drop or so.


Interesting, so it's different from these then.

Thanks!