How long are you gonna let Infamous(Pk'ers) get away with it?

SilvaNugget Profile Options #21

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MOST mmorpg's have absolutely no penalty for pk'ing and I hate bringing this POS game up but....WoW is a number one seller, with 0 penalty for ganking. I have a feeling you wont hurt the game if you leave because of some gankers.

For the most part I hope you do. Im tired of people crying when they get slammed. We all go through it leveling. That ganker that just got you, has been ganked twice as much.

All that needs to be said.
Solx Profile Options #22

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All of you PKers are hilariously pathetic. You pop red and start attacking me, then when I turn around and lay down some righteous judgement, you turn tail and run to the nearest safe zone. The [filtered] heals up and trys again..... and he loses again and again and again.

It became a spectacle and just made me enjoy the times.

So to all of the PKers, please pull the [filtered] out and grow a pair.
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Gotti on 06/27/2012, 12:21 PM - view
Hafaestus on 06/27/2012, 10:38 AM
The fact is, most PvPers and almost ALL PKs dont want true fair competition. They pick on those that are lower level, busy with a BAM, with a group of friends if they have to, and then hide in the safe area when they cant compete. The level thing will happen, nothing can be done about that right now. The gear problem is a fault of the game itself. Right now its gear > skill in spite of the advertising done. And the numbers game, thats just human nature.

Classic case of this last night. Stupid level 25 PK farming lowbies at the Lumbertown bridge. Sitting just inside the the safe line. Kills multiple lowbies half his level. He falls into the ditch under the bridge so my buddy crushes him once and let the name calling commence. He gets butthurt and either logs or leaves. Not so much fun when it happens to them.

Removing the safe area for those that are red with infamy would help curb the idiots who are not PvPing, they are griefing.



Dam bro you should not be on a pvp server if the pvp makes u that mad. Your fact is not a fact at all i play a archer and from the time i could pvp i have i stay outlaw and never turn it off name is jongotti look me up in game if u dont belive me and i fight all most of the time kill anyone i come across it dont matter the number, lvl or what they are doing i still pvp them i never go to lower lvls and do it but as im lvling i kill anyone i see. But at the same time i run around red so everyone that sees me trys to kill me so it is fair how it is! I get gankd all the time im red to everyone bro so i get more pvp then i want it has nothen to do with killing lowbies. Its got to do with pvp all most all the [filtered] people i fight run to a safe zone so i agree with some of u there i think the safezone should not be safe if u are in combat but only go safe when u go out of combat! there are more carebear [filtered] [filtered]s on this so called *PvP* server then there are pvpers. So stop cring and [filtered] pvp. If the guy is a high lvl ganking lowbies like at lumber town then call some 60s or move ch nothen u can do about it but if its the same lvl suck it up and fight!!!!


Im the last to cry. I beta tested UO and played it for 5 years which has a much more difficult and punishing PvP system. It was hard to be a PK in those days and rightfully so. I hated when they added Trammel, but it was needed to keep the game alive. The idea here is that you actually end up hurting your population if you let the PKs do what they want. Yes you can call in 60s, but new players, in their low teens do not usually know any 60s. And grats to you, you sound like one of the few that gets it. Im not afraid to fight people either. But more than 3-4 levels up and Im screwed, and refrain from attacking down.

The real issue here is PKs or being flagged red with infamy, abusing a game mechanic, a safe zone, to be a tool to lower level players. You cant even call in higher levels to get revenge at that point as they are perfectly safe.
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Lowbei on 06/27/2012, 07:24 PM - view
no


Judging by the rest of your posts in this thread, removing the safe zone for you would probably kill your play style. IE: gank noob, hide in safe zone, rinse, repeat?

Mad skills IMO....
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HK009 on 06/27/2012, 02:15 PM - view
Well there was a debuff for the different amounts of infamy a player got that was in the game, but for some reason EME thought that not having any kind of punishment was a great idea and took it out. Maybe they should put it back in !!!!


QFT

Balance needs to be achieved but people will cry when they add a mechanic that punishes players...
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Hafaestus on 06/28/2012, 05:50 AM - view
HK009 on 06/27/2012, 02:15 PM
Well there was a debuff for the different amounts of infamy a player got that was in the game, but for some reason EME thought that not having any kind of punishment was a great idea and took it out. Maybe they should put it back in !!!!


QFT

Balance needs to be achieved but people will cry when they add a mechanic that punishes players...


So what does infamy actually do? There has to be something that will counter the "ima 60 and i love killing things that cant fight back, cuz i have a small epeen".

I love pvp, but when you can 1 shot someone...... that is NOT pvp.
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@ Solx

You will never get away from it. Its human nature to prey on the weak. The idea is to create a solution to curb this behavior. By removing the place to hide, you expose them to attack by anyone.
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Hafaestus on 06/28/2012, 05:49 AM - view
Lowbei on 06/27/2012, 07:24 PM
no


Judging by the rest of your posts in this thread, removing the safe zone for you would probably kill your play style. IE: gank noob, hide in safe zone, rinse, repeat?

Mad skills IMO....


i play a mystic, and i dont pk people

but its ok to claim that i hide in safe zones to help your argument, i dont mind :)

i said no because its fairly obvious that if someone is "hiding" from you in a safe zone, that you have won the altercation regardless of how the fight actually turned out

but thats just me using logic, sorry
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Solx on 06/27/2012, 09:43 PM - view
All of you PKers are hilariously pathetic. You pop red and start attacking me, then when I turn around and lay down some righteous judgement, you turn tail and run to the nearest safe zone. The [filtered] heals up and trys again..... and he loses again and again and again.

It became a spectacle and just made me enjoy the times.

So to all of the PKers, please pull the [filtered] out and grow a pair.


Goes both ways sir........ plenty of blues that tuck tail and make haste to a safe zone as soon as they see red...... So dont pretend that its only reds. And im sure you have had your [filtered] handed to you just as many times as you have layed down your "righteous judgement", and you have prolly had to run a few times as well..... Just like everyone else.
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SkylineR33GTR on 06/28/2012, 07:04 AM - view
Solx on 06/27/2012, 09:43 PM
All of you PKers are hilariously pathetic. You pop red and start attacking me, then when I turn around and lay down some righteous judgement, you turn tail and run to the nearest safe zone. The [filtered] heals up and trys again..... and he loses again and again and again.

It became a spectacle and just made me enjoy the times.

So to all of the PKers, please pull the [filtered] out and grow a pair.


Goes both ways sir........ plenty of blues that tuck tail and make haste to a safe zone as soon as they see red...... So dont pretend that its only reds. And im sure you have had your [filtered] handed to you just as many times as you have layed down your "righteous judgement", and you have prolly had to run a few times as well..... Just like everyone else.


Nah I usually take death like a man.... then rez and hunt some [filtered]es.

I will not lie, i have lost a few times.

The point I am making is that you pop red to kill me and you start to lose, so you run to a "Safe" zone. How hypocritical is that? You hunt around for some easy prey and when they wont go down like a [filtered], you [filtered] out. When you tag "outlaw" you should not get a "Safe" zone.......

You want to kill people, you have to put your life on the line.