I agree with the idea of punishing people who just kill lowbies- Its great. However, there are a couple of issues with it-

There is no decrease for being 'punished' by your fellow players. You have to run all the way out to the appropriate level monsters and kill them, hoping nobody kills you, or wait around for nothing, or abandon the character.

There isn't a penalty for killing people at or above your level.

Hear me out on the second point- As it stands, gankers can just roam around killing people at their level or higher and then just run away to deflag whenever somebody dangerous comes.
I say this because I have 300 or so infamy points (down from 700, fun times [no]) because some wonderful people decided to murder some of my friends over and over. Whenever I went near them, they just stole the monsters my friends were questing for instead. So, I flagged to kill them so that my friends could actually play the game- But no! This makes me a horrible criminal who kills people lower level than I am! So, I've been murdered over and over by righteous people who think they are dispensing justice.

That is the second issue- No penalties for killing at or above level. Maybe even 5 infamy points for same level would be reasonable and effective, preventing a speedy deflag but not being insurmountable (just wait 10 minutes for it to decay or kill something).

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why would you punish people for pvping on a pvp server? no infamy for on level kills.

if your friend is getting camped, switch channels, or tell him to get a group of that level to fight back. it's not hard. you just wanted to play superman and save him, and now you get prison sexed up everytime you leave town.

'There is no decrease for being 'punished' by your fellow players'


I have seen that before, and what people did, was to get a friend to kill them over, and over.


'There isn't a penalty for killing people at or above your level.'

I see nothing wrong with killing people stronger than you, even if this mean, 5 vs 1. This is a PVP server after all.

I'm 1.2k in infamy because these groups of lvl 12-14's jumped my alt a solid 5 times, so I pulled out my main and hunted them down.

Totally worth it~

Honestly, if it were up to me Infamy wouldnt exist. You shouldnt be punished at all, ..for PvP'ing on a PvP server. If your idea of PvP is slaughtering helpless lowbies...more power to ya, I salute you, your on a PvP server. If your idea of PvP is "always" having your precious "fair" fights, in a little special area where everything is exactly how YOU want it. Then honestly, GTFO a PvP server. You dont belong. I dont mind this outlaw crap system(I dont hunt lowbies fyi), however, its only there because of carebear crybabies whining about PvP on PvP servers. Its rediculous,...punishment for PvP? I dont get it

The game is unplayable with the infamy system, if you have infamy. It's you vs. the entire zone. It doesn't help the zones are designed like a single player game as well. All the quest mobs are on tiny roads.

The real shame is that PvP servers act exactly like a PvE server with the flagging system. Nobody attacks anyone else, because it would simply be retarded to press the outlaw button every 60 seconds while you're questing. This again goes to reinforce the fact that anyone with infamy is required to fend off the entire zone by themselves, since nobody else is ever flagged. They are the only target.

I'm fairly sure Anti-Pk'rs proliferate the development team and they've flunked in my book. Worst system I've ever seen in an MMO.

After losing about 50 gold worth of crystals, I'm just about done with this game. Tired of pvp engagements automatically favoring the other guy, just because someone happens to be walking down the road and I'm the only target within 50 miles.

Quote: p0llyp0cket on 04/30/2012, 08:49 PM - view

Eve players have 50+ people pressing d scan every 8 seconds to ensure they dont get ganked.
I don't see what the problem is

slow clunky combat mechanics, horrible pvp system, level outwheighs skill by far. Why even play this game if you're a pvper.

I don't know why there is an infamy system. I say either they remove it or we organize massive level 11 guilds to force people to either die or get massive infamy until they admit it's a bad idea and remove it.