New Rules are Horrible!!!

ghost69 Profile Options #21

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Lrebel on 03/07/2012, 05:20 PM - view
If they're 6+ lower than you, I really don't think you have to worry about dying to them.


It wasn't the dying part it was the part that i THOUGHT i would get penalized for. But like i said in my post above that i THOUGHT if i kill'd THEM i would get the infamy points, but from what i read i will NOT.

So to recap:

If you are defending yourself and kill said person(s) and they are lower level then you, you WILL NOT get penalized for it.

They have to be -6 levels for you to get INFAMY points.

Edited by: ghost69 about 1 year ago - Reason: Wording
Khaios Profile Options #22

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Why would i be penalized for killing people on a pvp server, since we don't loose anything from dying??
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Khaios on 03/07/2012, 05:29 PM - view
Why would i be penalized for killing people on a pvp server, since we don't loose anything from dying??


You're not penalized. You just stay an outlaw longer (rather than going back to normal mode after 60 seconds) if you kill someone 6 lvls or more under you.
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Khaios on 03/07/2012, 05:29 PM - view
Why would i be penalized for killing people on a pvp server, since we don't loose anything from dying??


Because again i was under the assumption, going off there wording...

"You will now earn Infamy Points for killing lower-level players—60 points for players 6-10 levels lower than you; 120 points for players 11 or more levels lower than you."

and since they never stated that you had to be in outlaw mode to get infamy points that if i was defending myself and was jump by ether a one or a group of people that were -6 levels from me i would get infamy points...
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ghost69 on 03/07/2012, 04:44 PM - view
Low levels can gang up on a higher level, they can go into outlaw mode get kill'd (obviously) have no penalties against them but make the higher level stay in outlaw mode for defending himself. It doesn't say they person has to be in outlaw mode to start to get these penalties it just say's killing someone x levels lower.


I'm pretty sure (or at least I'm hoping) that they intend for it to be you gain infamy if you are in outlaw mode and PK another character 6+ levels under you. If someone outlaws on you and you kill them you are not considered an outlaw still, so I'm pretty sure its just if you go outlaw on someone 6+levels under you that you'll gain infamy.
Edited by: phil1989 about 1 year ago
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/facepalm Guys. Read the whole thread.


If you did not push the outlaw button first, you don't gain points for killing 6+ levels below. This has been confirmed already.


So this means you're perfectly safe defending yourself, or, presumably, defending someone ELSE from someone who chose to push the button.


On the other note, I don't think removing safezones is necessary yet. Someone who's gained points will have to stay there for quite a while in order to burn them off, or leave entirely to go fight monsters their own level---which is more likely to get them ganked by players their own level.


System looks like it'll work fine.
Edited by: Kyro about 1 year ago - Reason: Formatting broke.
Khaios Profile Options #27

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kaikitsu05 on 03/07/2012, 05:30 PM - view
Khaios on 03/07/2012, 05:29 PM
Why would i be penalized for killing people on a pvp server, since we don't loose anything from dying??


You're not penalized. You just stay an outlaw longer (rather than going back to normal mode after 60 seconds) if you kill someone 6 lvls or more under you.


Isn't there any stat loss when you have infamy? If not then yea it looks nice.
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Khaios on 03/07/2012, 06:33 PM - view
kaikitsu05 on 03/07/2012, 05:30 PM
Khaios on 03/07/2012, 05:29 PM
Why would i be penalized for killing people on a pvp server, since we don't loose anything from dying??


You're not penalized. You just stay an outlaw longer (rather than going back to normal mode after 60 seconds) if you kill someone 6 lvls or more under you.


Isn't there any stat loss when you have infamy? If not then yea it looks nice.


No, with any luck it will stay that way. I rather the players police themselves than have a hard coded system to do it for them. Makes it more interesting.
Edited by: kaikitsu05 about 1 year ago
ghost69 Profile Options #29

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Khaios on 03/07/2012, 06:33 PM - view
kaikitsu05 on 03/07/2012, 05:30 PM
Khaios on 03/07/2012, 05:29 PM
Why would i be penalized for killing people on a pvp server, since we don't loose anything from dying??


You're not penalized. You just stay an outlaw longer (rather than going back to normal mode after 60 seconds) if you kill someone 6 lvls or more under you.


Isn't there any stat loss when you have infamy? If not then yea it looks nice.


The stat loss your referring to does exist but only in K-TERA atm, and hopefully stays that way.
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Nice, i'm happy. This system is really cool then, i would like it even more if outlaw couldn't benefit of safe zone xD