New Rules are Horrible!!!

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kaikitsu05 on 03/07/2012, 07:29 PM - view
Lrebel on 03/07/2012, 07:22 PM



When someone flags red, everyone around kills them. .


Um. PKing 101, don't try and kill someone if they're surrounded by people who will jump to their defense.

Lrebel on 03/07/2012, 07:22 PM
I mean, I can walk up to another player, without pushing any buttons at all, and kill them.


See your point and agree, but not possible in this type of game due to mechanics. Lvling would just be a nightmare after lvl 11 because most attacks seem to have an aoe affect and as funny as it would be for someone to accidentally be killed because they got too near another player, it would get old and navigating around other players while trying to lvl would get annoying.


Yeah I know, like I said I am not dumb enough to believe FFA will happen in this game, despite that being what I really want.

I don't think it would be as bad as your describing though, you would just have to be more aware of your surroundings.
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kaikitsu05 on 03/07/2012, 07:29 PM - view
Lrebel on 03/07/2012, 07:22 PM



When someone flags red, everyone around kills them. .


Um. PKing 101, don't try and kill someone if they're surrounded by people who will jump to their defense.

Lrebel on 03/07/2012, 07:22 PM
I mean, I can walk up to another player, without pushing any buttons at all, and kill them.


See your point and agree, but not possible in this type of game due to mechanics. Lvling would just be a nightmare after lvl 11 because most attacks seem to have an aoe affect and as funny as it would be for someone to accidentally be killed because they got too near another player, it would get old and navigating around other players while trying to lvl would get annoying.



Actually it's not a nightmare, you've played the game I'm sure if you see someone fighting a mob you wont be a *durp durp* and run right into them...right? my point is there are other games out there like AoC that allows for a FFA environment. Its not about mechanics its just about making a compromise between the hardcore PvPer's and the casual PvPer's.
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Anthraxsnax on 03/07/2012, 07:30 PM - view
no, the real problem is people bringing healers that are 6-7 levels lower than them to heal them while they PK... because if you have a hard time killing the kid w/ heals on him - you're either forced to flag and kill the lowbie healer, or suck it up/die/run.


This is just an assumption, but I do not think an outlaw can be affected by heals unless healer is in their party. And I know for a fact that if you're in a party and you heal someone who is an outlaw, you go outlaw yourself and so would be open for attack by everyone else.
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Anthraxsnax on 03/07/2012, 07:30 PM - view
no, the real problem is people bringing healers that are 6-7 levels lower than them to heal them while they PK... because if you have a hard time killing the kid w/ heals on him - you're either forced to flag and kill the lowbie healer, or suck it up/die/run.


Which is one thing i hope they add/change where if you are getting heals, the healer should be flag as a outlaw.
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kaikitsu05 on 03/07/2012, 07:34 PM - view
Anthraxsnax on 03/07/2012, 07:30 PM
no, the real problem is people bringing healers that are 6-7 levels lower than them to heal them while they PK... because if you have a hard time killing the kid w/ heals on him - you're either forced to flag and kill the lowbie healer, or suck it up/die/run.


This is just an assumption, but I do not think an outlaw can be affected by heals unless healer is in their party. And I know for a fact that if you're in a party and you heal someone who is an outlaw, you go outlaw yourself and so would be open for attack by everyone else.


uhh actually, I don't think it works like that, I think certain heals only work if you're outlawed too... i dont party much to test it though
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Anthraxsnax on 03/07/2012, 07:39 PM - view
kaikitsu05 on 03/07/2012, 07:34 PM
Anthraxsnax on 03/07/2012, 07:30 PM
no, the real problem is people bringing healers that are 6-7 levels lower than them to heal them while they PK... because if you have a hard time killing the kid w/ heals on him - you're either forced to flag and kill the lowbie healer, or suck it up/die/run.


This is just an assumption, but I do not think an outlaw can be affected by heals unless healer is in their party. And I know for a fact that if you're in a party and you heal someone who is an outlaw, you go outlaw yourself and so would be open for attack by everyone else.


uhh actually, I don't think it works like that, I think certain heals only work if you're outlawed too... i dont party much to test it though


*Shrug* I just know that when a party member went outlaw for a revenge killing, I was flagged as well when I healed them. Pretty sure it was the circle heal I used, so not sure if the locked on would have worked unless I was already an outlaw or what the deal would be with the mystic balls.
Edited by: kaikitsu05 about 1 year ago
ValkyrieLaw Profile Options #57

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People whined too loudly, pvp watered down with even more restrictions.

I no longer feel like I'm missing out on anything going with my guild to a PVE server.
Edited by: ValkyrieLaw about 1 year ago
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ValkyrieLaw on 03/07/2012, 08:01 PM - view

I no longer feel like I'm missing out on anything going with my guild to a PVE server.


the only thing they did was punish you for killing lowbies... why couldn't you just go to a pve server and kill low level mobs?
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i don't think the new rules are that bad... in fact they probably won't even affect me. the only people who should be complaining are the people who plan on gankin lowbies. in fact i like the rules, because its more likely that lots of people will be flagged red from now and on.
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Arbitrary restrictions we didn't need. Sorry, I don't need a game-mechanic telling me not to kill lowbies to not want to. Hand-holding and invisible barriers are not for me.

Enjoy your watered-down ruleset.

On the flip-side, this just makes the real griefers happier. Perma-red status is what they're after, and the best way to do that is farm some lowbies. Lowbies that won't get protection from high levels anymore, because arbitrary rules were put in place so they don't have to help.

I was annoyed that I wouldn't be playing on the ffa faction-less no-holds-barred owpvp server. I no longer care. *shrug*