I don't think PvPing is grinding for people who play the game to PvP. They can do it in BGs or in OW, but the idea behind titles is to give them a reason to keep playing the game instead of getting bored with it and leaving. There are people out there like that. For most of us though it won't be a grind, it'll just be a fun thing we get eventually from playing the game and having fun.

I'm not bashing his system. I'm simply asking a question, one that it seems no one has an answer for. "How would you address cheating, exploiting, or otherwise gaming the system?" I really don't think that's an unreasonable question to ask, and relying on faith that other players will choose not to game the system, isn't a satisfactory answer.

-Travail.

We also don't know what measures EME has in place to catch people kill trading. I'm sure they have thought of the possibility already. I mean to start with I can already think of one - if a group is not doing anything in a battleground that's pretty obvious and the CS people can catch that. Or if a guild is blatantly kill trading in OWPvP, you bet other players and guilds on the server will find out about it and do something about it.

Quote: Leiloni on 2012-02-22 06:12:00 UTC

I don't think PvPing is grinding for people who play the game to PvP. They can do it in BGs or in OW, but the idea behind titles is to give them a reason to keep playing the game instead of getting bored with it and leaving. There are people out there like that. For most of us though it won't be a grind, it'll just be a fun thing we get eventually from playing the game and having fun.

There are always players who sit AFK in instanced PvP, just so they can complete daily quests to "win x PvP matches." That happens in every single game which offers instanced PvP. And at least in TOR, there was definitely rigged matches in instanced PvP, where one side would simply sit there and allow the other side to kill them and win. Note that it doesn't take the entire team to do this. Even if only a few players on your side decide to sit there and either AFK, or allow their friends on the opposing team to win, that provides enough of a team imbalance to make victory for your side impossible, far more often than not.

I'm not bashing his system. I'm simply asking a question, one that it seems no one has an answer for. "How would you address cheating, exploiting, or otherwise gaming the system?" I really don't think that's an unreasonable question to ask, and relying on faith that other players will choose not to game the system, isn't a satisfactory answer.

-Travail.

fatwa, I know you're not that stupid... this isn't about min/maxing... it's about retaining hardcore no lifers attention with this game... else it'll be like aion where everyones decked out 2-3 months after release and gets bored with nothing to work towards and quits...


everyone saying "novelty this, novelty that" how many people had fissure armor in guildwars prior to expansions? it was a pointless upgrade for something that simply "looked" different...

Hardcore players who aren't min/maxing won't care about 3 damage (per your example).

what? this isn't about min maxing.... are you stoned or something tonight? you keep saying min max like it has anything to do with the conversation...

what I propose is a slight advantage at the cost of an extremely slow pace to get it, to help hardcore( no lifers ) have something to do in game after they get decked out in no time flat... this has nothing to do with min/maxing, and everything to do with keeping someone interested in the game for a few subs longer before they quit to play something else... alot of people quit aion after 3-4 months because they were completely decked out, then didn't play until 2.0 launched... this hurt the player base alot because some of them didn't feel like coming back due to getting interested in other games...