Something needs to be done about ganking

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Luminosity on 04/09/2012, 11:54 AM - view
If you guys are whining about ganking then you've obviously never played open world pvp games like lineage 2


Not everyone here is whinning about ganking. Some of us want a higher death penalty when we get ganked, but we also want to see a higher penalty for the gankers too (which I can understand you whinning about that).
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Luminosity on 04/09/2012, 12:17 PM - view
Also since when was PVP supposed to be fair? I think your concept of a PVP is getting somewhat confused with what a duel is.


Since when was pvp NOT supposed to be fair?

There is no rule saying that pvp cant be fair.. Only that no mmo has ever succedded at making a fair mechanic, or they just dont care.

Im very exited about the Guild VS guild thing.. But that can only be done on PvP servers.. thats a downer. I think GvG makes total sence, and should be the way open world pvp is done, where both guilds agree on being at war
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I put up a post with my suggestion as to how to help with the ganking. My ideas isn't to get rid of it but change the environment in which it exists. I would love for feedback and help refining the idea if your up to it. Its the post called "PvP Lowbie Empowerment Program".
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lol at people wanting open-world pvp to be "fair". Peace and love and happiness, Carebear Stare!

Nothing needs to be "done" about ganking besides you, the playerbase, putting a stop to it yourself. The less the game has to get involved in your world the better. Stop whining.
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Vardahoth on 04/09/2012, 01:53 PM
Hooligan81 on 04/09/2012, 01:36 PM
I think L2's pvp system would work wonders in this game

Outlaws would have a chance of dropping an item off their character
Outlaws don't benefit from Safe zones and are KoS by guards

Also make it so that you can't change channels when you have high infamy

this would actually make the game a bit more interesting for both types of players on a pvp server.

of course the griefers will cry about it because they can't freely 1shot people 10+ levels lower and then go carebear into a safezone till the infamy wears off but it shouldn't be that easy for them anyways.


I agree with this but on the flip side the gankers need to get some satisfaction too. I vote for deleveling players, otherwise this will be too harsh for them and you won't see many gankers.


Gankers get their satisfaction out of ganking otherwise they wouldn't be doing it to begin with , Getting de-leveled by a ganker is the worse idea i have ever heard of and would completely destroy the playerbase.

Ganking should involve risk, the thrill of killing a player and knowing your wanted , having to lay low till your infamy wears off could be fun given a town specifically for infamous players so they could access shops and such but not have a safezone to cower in.

Players killing players their own level don't gain infamy that fast so it takes less time to wear off vs a level 38 killing level 12's they are gonna be outlawed for quite awhile and now have to suffer the consequence of being a douche , see how that works ?

with this griefers would have to decide if the risk = the reward.

Griefers get their satisfaction at the expense of other players fun so it should return full circle.
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Hooligan81 on 04/09/2012, 02:08 PM - view
Vardahoth on 04/09/2012, 01:53 PM
Hooligan81 on 04/09/2012, 01:36 PM
I think L2's pvp system would work wonders in this game

Outlaws would have a chance of dropping an item off their character
Outlaws don't benefit from Safe zones and are KoS by guards

Also make it so that you can't change channels when you have high infamy

this would actually make the game a bit more interesting for both types of players on a pvp server.

of course the griefers will cry about it because they can't freely 1shot people 10+ levels lower and then go carebear into a safezone till the infamy wears off but it shouldn't be that easy for them anyways.


I agree with this but on the flip side the gankers need to get some satisfaction too. I vote for deleveling players, otherwise this will be too harsh for them and you won't see many gankers.


Gankers get their satisfaction out of ganking otherwise they wouldn't be doing it to begin with , Getting de-leveled by a ganker is the worse idea i have ever heard of and would completely destroy the playerbase.

Ganking should involve risk, the thrill of killing a player and knowing your wanted , having to lay low till your infamy wears off could be fun given a town specifically for infamous players so they could access shops and such but not have a safezone to cower in.

Players killing players their own level don't gain infamy that fast so it takes less time to wear off vs a level 38 killing level 12's they are gonna be outlawed for quite awhile and now have to suffer the consequence of being a douche , see how that works ?

with this griefers would have to decide if the risk = the reward.

Griefers get their satisfaction at the expense of other players fun so it should return full circle.


When I played L2 and a clan put me on KOS simply because they couldn't pick on me. I ganked them. I got my satisfaction from de-leveling their members, stopping their raids, and getting them to the point where I get a pm from the leader (of the #1 clan from the server btw) saying "if you stop killing my members I will take you off kos". the next day one of his members pk'd me while I was sitting down afk. I pm'd the leader and he came out immediately to brez (res scroll with 100% exp back, but cost alot of money) me.

Good times.
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Stranglethorn Vale? Yep, I do remember it.

Yep, and I have nothing but fond memories. Of course, I was playing a rogue.
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Debutante on 04/09/2012, 02:22 PM - view
Stranglethorn Vale? Yep, I do remember it.

Yep, and I have nothing but fond memories. Of course, I was playing a rogue.


No it was uprising. They had an event to allow top allies of each server pvp and uprising were the ones who won.
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NPC Guards should be able to kill red name players like they kill mobs. xD
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I like PVP, but not ganking. Unfortunetly most of the gankers which pretty much are the ones saying the same stupid thing "change channels, role pve server" and that kind of imbecile comments have such a retarded mentality. Unfortunetly, even if the game mechanics change, we cannot change these imbeciles, so if we want to be on pvp servers will have to deal with these troglodytes. In any case i will definetly become a pkker. But i really would like to be some sort of reward having to kill these outlaws. By the way this situations reminds me a lot to //.Hack