Something needs to be done about ganking

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Soulbreak on 04/09/2012, 06:49 PM - view
Calypso on 04/09/2012, 06:25 PM
Soulbreak on 04/09/2012, 05:44 PM
So 5 minutes...
Man, we should probably change the entire server and its functional ability.

Good lord people, you do realize that other games have had full looting, AND you had to walk back to town, find a random NPC healer, or beg someone to res you?

You don't even lose exp!


lol

"Don't complain that your iPhone battery loses its charge in 30 minutes! We used to have phones with rotary dials, therefore your complaint is invalid!"

o.0

While changing the server isn't something that some people want to see, at least defend your ideas with a -relevant- comment.


Relevant idea....

Don't want to get killed play a human player behind a keyboard, don't play on a server where this can happen.

Bump, set, match.


first off your post makes about as much sense as a soup sandwich

People want to play on pvp servers for the end game pvp NOT to get pked by players 10,20,49 levels higher because they have nothing to do. You can't stop them from wanting to play on that server type therefore they are going to complain about being ganked .. deal with it.

The rest of us are asking that ganking be given a risk to make the game more interesting because as it is now there is gain to it , if you enjoy 1 shotting level 11's all day your probably gonna lose interest in the game and quit the first week.

So lets add a little depth to the game , some excitement perhaps to weed out the tools from the true hardcore pvpers .. Add consequences to ganking by taking away safezones for outlaws and making them KoS by guards , Maybe add a bounty system so that when another non outlaw player kills them they get a reward. You'll still have gankers , you'll still have fun , you'll hear less people complain and You'll give players a reason to hunt down Outlaws .. Imagine that a whole new exciting aspect of pvp

Edited by: Hooligan81 about 1 year ago
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Hooligan81 on 04/09/2012, 07:21 PM - view
Soulbreak on 04/09/2012, 06:49 PM
Calypso on 04/09/2012, 06:25 PM
Soulbreak on 04/09/2012, 05:44 PM
So 5 minutes...
Man, we should probably change the entire server and its functional ability.

Good lord people, you do realize that other games have had full looting, AND you had to walk back to town, find a random NPC healer, or beg someone to res you?

You don't even lose exp!


lol

"Don't complain that your iPhone battery loses its charge in 30 minutes! We used to have phones with rotary dials, therefore your complaint is invalid!"

o.0

While changing the server isn't something that some people want to see, at least defend your ideas with a -relevant- comment.


Relevant idea....

Don't want to get killed play a human player behind a keyboard, don't play on a server where this can happen.

Bump, set, match.


first off your post makes about as much sense as a soup sandwich

People want to play on pvp servers for the end game pvp NOT to get pked by players 10,20,49 levels higher because they have nothing to do. You can't stop them from wanting to play on that server type therefore they are going to complain about being ganked .. deal with it.

The rest of us are asking that ganking be given a risk to make the game more interesting because as it is now there is gain to it , if you enjoy 1 shotting level 11's all day your probably gonna lose interest in the game and quit the first week.

So lets add a little depth to the game , some excitement perhaps to weed out the tools from the true hardcore pvpers .. Add consequences to ganking by taking away safezones for outlaws and making them KoS by guards , Maybe add a bounty system so that when another non outlaw player kills them they get a reward. You'll still have gankers , you'll still have fun , you'll hear less people complain and You'll give players a reason to hunt down Outlaws .. Imagine that a whole new exciting aspect of pvp



You want a fantasy world were you get everything easy. Don't cry about getting pked, regardless if it is a one shot, a gank, or an even match. The result is the same, you die, you spend MAYBE 5mins and are back at the grind.

To the point of me losing interest in playing the game under my own terms, I think I can decide what I will find fun.

You want 'tools' to weed out player to find true hardcore players but complain and want a new system put in to protect you. That is exactly what I think of when I hear HARDCORE, special settings put in place to ease the pain and suffering of being killed.

You want a reward for killing and outlaw, how about the fact you just killed an outlaw! A person who made a choice to flag and you made them pay the price.

I kill players in games because every fights is unique, I kill humans because they are tougher than any monster EME can create, I kill little children behind a keyboard because it is fun. I'm allowed to do this on only a couple of servers that allows me to do so.

If you don't want to play against/with people of this mindset, then why not play on the server that doesn't allow it.

You don't hear PvPers going...Hey, there needs to be open world pvp allowed on a pve server. This is bull, he is killing my mob, I should be allowed to kill him! :'(
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Soulbreak on 04/09/2012, 07:50 PM - view


You want a fantasy world were you get everything easy. Don't cry about getting pked, regardless if it is a one shot, a gank, or an even match. The result is the same, you die, you spend MAYBE 5mins and are back at the grind.

To the point of me losing interest in playing the game under my own terms, I think I can decide what I will find fun.

You want 'tools' to weed out player to find true hardcore players but complain and want a new system put in to protect you. That is exactly what I think of when I hear HARDCORE, special settings put in place to ease the pain and suffering of being killed.

You want a reward for killing and outlaw, how about the fact you just killed an outlaw! A person who made a choice to flag and you made them pay the price.

I kill players in games because every fights is unique, I kill humans because they are tougher than any monster EME can create, I kill little children behind a keyboard because it is fun. I'm allowed to do this on only a couple of servers that allows me to do so.

If you don't want to play against/with people of this mindset, then why not play on the server that doesn't allow it.

You don't hear PvPers going...Hey, there needs to be open world pvp allowed on a pve server. This is bull, he is killing my mob, I should be allowed to kill him! :'(


Its obvious at this point you can't read so i'll recap it but I refuse to spell it out for you, Its your problem if you can't comprehend words.

Not complaining about being ganked
Not asking for tools to weed out anything
Not asking for protection from anything

I'm asking that Open PK be riskier and less boring


Recheck the post if you have your doubts.
Edited by: Hooligan81 about 1 year ago
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Hooligan81 on 04/09/2012, 07:21 PM - view


first off your post makes about as much sense as a soup sandwich




I resent that statement. I work at obee's soups salads and subs, and I make soup sandwhiches often.

you don't even know what's up until you strain out some chicken and dumpling, cut some bread like a V, toss some bacon and swiss on there and call it amazing.

though the cream of potato sandwhich is probably my favorite(ends up tasting like a loaded mashed potato sandwhich)






and we don't need to punish players for OWPvPing on an OWPvP server... why punish PKs?
and sure - we don't all play the game to get ganked while we're leveling up by people 10+ levels higher... but then again, we don't play the game for the fights we lose either... you all want to be winners, but throw a fit when you're a loser... always want to be the hunter, but never want to be the prey...

riddle me this about your "end game PvP". when everyones roaming in groups+ with their zerg guild, how is that any more "pvp" than ganking a lowbie? both parties exhibit a scenario inwhich one side cannot fight back... should there be a system that punish people who fight with uneven numbers against a target?

but no no, you're the kid in the zerg guild anyways - so you'd hate that rule!

what about players who attack other players that aren't at full life/have a mob/bam on them? should these same penalties be applied to them aswell? ohh but then we'd just see people dive into mobs everytime someone ran around - to discourage them from attacking...

now don't you feel stupid?
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Hooligan81 on 04/09/2012, 08:02 PM - view
Soulbreak on 04/09/2012, 07:50 PM


You want a fantasy world were you get everything easy. Don't cry about getting pked, regardless if it is a one shot, a gank, or an even match. The result is the same, you die, you spend MAYBE 5mins and are back at the grind.

To the point of me losing interest in playing the game under my own terms, I think I can decide what I will find fun.

You want 'tools' to weed out player to find true hardcore players but complain and want a new system put in to protect you. That is exactly what I think of when I hear HARDCORE, special settings put in place to ease the pain and suffering of being killed.

You want a reward for killing and outlaw, how about the fact you just killed an outlaw! A person who made a choice to flag and you made them pay the price.

I kill players in games because every fights is unique, I kill humans because they are tougher than any monster EME can create, I kill little children behind a keyboard because it is fun. I'm allowed to do this on only a couple of servers that allows me to do so.

If you don't want to play against/with people of this mindset, then why not play on the server that doesn't allow it.

You don't hear PvPers going...Hey, there needs to be open world pvp allowed on a pve server. This is bull, he is killing my mob, I should be allowed to kill him! :'(


Its obvious at this point you can't read so i'll recap it but I refuse to spell it out for you, Its your problem if you can't comprehend words.

Not complaining about being ganked
Not asking for tools to weed out anything
Not asking for protection from anything

I'm asking that Open PK be riskier and less boring


Recheck the post if you have your doubts.


Wow, OWPVP isn't boring. Its boring for you because you suck and lose. Learn to play, learn your class, group up, pvp.
Better?
Edited by: Soulbreak about 1 year ago
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Soulbreak on 04/09/2012, 08:08 PM - view

because you suck and lose


should have just left it at that.
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Soulbreak on 04/09/2012, 08:08 PM - view
Hooligan81 on 04/09/2012, 08:02 PM
Soulbreak on 04/09/2012, 07:50 PM


You want a fantasy world were you get everything easy. Don't cry about getting pked, regardless if it is a one shot, a gank, or an even match. The result is the same, you die, you spend MAYBE 5mins and are back at the grind.

To the point of me losing interest in playing the game under my own terms, I think I can decide what I will find fun.

You want 'tools' to weed out player to find true hardcore players but complain and want a new system put in to protect you. That is exactly what I think of when I hear HARDCORE, special settings put in place to ease the pain and suffering of being killed.

You want a reward for killing and outlaw, how about the fact you just killed an outlaw! A person who made a choice to flag and you made them pay the price.

I kill players in games because every fights is unique, I kill humans because they are tougher than any monster EME can create, I kill little children behind a keyboard because it is fun. I'm allowed to do this on only a couple of servers that allows me to do so.

If you don't want to play against/with people of this mindset, then why not play on the server that doesn't allow it.

You don't hear PvPers going...Hey, there needs to be open world pvp allowed on a pve server. This is bull, he is killing my mob, I should be allowed to kill him! :'(


Its obvious at this point you can't read so i'll recap it but I refuse to spell it out for you, Its your problem if you can't comprehend words.

Not complaining about being ganked
Not asking for tools to weed out anything
Not asking for protection from anything

I'm asking that Open PK be riskier and less boring


Recheck the post if you have your doubts.


Wow, OWPVP isn't boring. Its boring for you because you suck and lose. Learn to play, learn your class, group up, pvp.
Better?


I think I lost maybe 1 fight all weekend out of maybe 6-7 I doubt its because I suck. it was archer vs archer and he was 2 levels higher and got a lucky crit.

I don't need to learn how to play or group up to pvp I prefer to solo when i can i get more excitement out of it.

Your response is what i would expect out of someone that wants there to be no actual depth to pvp , a person that thinks its hardcore to sit on a bridge and pk players that can't fight back.

I think the overall pvp in this game is pretty good and fun but the fact that there is no incentive or consequences for pking is lame.
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Oh WOW SoulBreak, what did I cause & miss?? hahaha. Indeed I do agree with you. I'm all for a PvP server; LOVE IT. Altho you gotta remember something bud... These games are a lot more fun with friends (& some just don't have the PvP juice, normally being the ones who kick the bucket 1st hehe.) Like I said before: Severe punishment would be nice or Channel X when you just don't wanna be camped by 20 red labeled 38's @ the flight point "that isn't even protected". It's not 5 min resume biz change channel sometimes. Ah well. I'll see ya on the battlefield my friend ^_^
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Hooligan81 on 04/09/2012, 08:34 PM - view
Soulbreak on 04/09/2012, 08:08 PM
Hooligan81 on 04/09/2012, 08:02 PM
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You want a fantasy world were you get everything easy. Don't cry about getting pked, regardless if it is a one shot, a gank, or an even match. The result is the same, you die, you spend MAYBE 5mins and are back at the grind.

To the point of me losing interest in playing the game under my own terms, I think I can decide what I will find fun.

You want 'tools' to weed out player to find true hardcore players but complain and want a new system put in to protect you. That is exactly what I think of when I hear HARDCORE, special settings put in place to ease the pain and suffering of being killed.

You want a reward for killing and outlaw, how about the fact you just killed an outlaw! A person who made a choice to flag and you made them pay the price.

I kill players in games because every fights is unique, I kill humans because they are tougher than any monster EME can create, I kill little children behind a keyboard because it is fun. I'm allowed to do this on only a couple of servers that allows me to do so.

If you don't want to play against/with people of this mindset, then why not play on the server that doesn't allow it.

You don't hear PvPers going...Hey, there needs to be open world pvp allowed on a pve server. This is bull, he is killing my mob, I should be allowed to kill him! :'(


Its obvious at this point you can't read so i'll recap it but I refuse to spell it out for you, Its your problem if you can't comprehend words.

Not complaining about being ganked
Not asking for tools to weed out anything
Not asking for protection from anything

I'm asking that Open PK be riskier and less boring


Recheck the post if you have your doubts.


Wow, OWPVP isn't boring. Its boring for you because you suck and lose. Learn to play, learn your class, group up, pvp.
Better?


I think I lost maybe 1 fight all weekend out of maybe 6-7 I doubt its because I suck. it was archer vs archer and he was 2 levels higher and got a lucky crit.

I don't need to learn how to play or group up to pvp I prefer to solo when i can i get more excitement out of it.

Your response is what i would expect out of someone that wants there to be no actual depth to pvp , a person that thinks its hardcore to sit on a bridge and pk players that can't fight back.

I think the overall pvp in this game is pretty good and fun but the fact that there is no incentive or consequences for pking is lame.


I'm boggled by your last sentence. Well, last two.

You speak about a player sitting on a bridge pking players (I assume something similar happened to you?)

Then you say there is no incentive to pk people.

This may come a shock to you, or maybe you thought you playing "PVP" games in the past, but my incentive to kill you isn't for gold, loot, or infamy. I kill you because it is fun as hell, and usually a challenge.

Why does a player killer need a reason or incentive to be on?
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Soulbreak on 04/09/2012, 08:38 PM - view


Then you say there is no incentive to pk people.


don't bother soulbreak, nobody can just PvP simply because it's fun to PvP... it's impossible!

infact, I won't sleep with my girlfriend unless she offers me money... and I won't eat a tasty burger unless someone pays me... why? because I can't see a reason to do something fun just for the sake of having "fun".

nobody has fun to have fun.