TERA 3v3 Rating and Matchmaking

Moolgogi Profile Options #1

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Why does TERA have a 3v3 rating system when it clearly has no effect on matchmaking?

Also, players judge each other by rating, which isnt fair for solo queuers because of the above reason. Raising your personal score rating is morbidly similar to enchanting to +15. (when it reverted to +12 every time you failed) Based on luck, and others will judge you by this item rather than your actual skill as a player.

I suggest we change our current rating system to a hidden rating system, so we can still have a leader board for crusades.

People kick each other for many reasons, "i think this person is worse than i am." can be true sometimes. (still doesnt make it right.) "i dont like that person, and my other teammate happens to be my friend, easy griefing." the worst reason: "i wanted to solo queue with my friend, its not personal, but i need to sacrifice your rating so i can play with my friend." the only good reason to kick someone is that they did not come to the BG prepared: crystals that do not apply to PVP, refuses to change them. did not bring noctenium infusion.

if we hide ratings, people will start caring less about their score and more about enjoying pvp. it will lessen player toxicity. it will encourage people to accept less skilled teammates. it will encourage average players to participate in high end pvp content so they can learn and grow, it might improve queue times.

even if we dont change it to a hidden rating system and just completely REMOVE the rating system, matchmaking will be completely unaffected because it doesnt take rating into account anyway, it only pretends to. it will not affect the "evenness" of matchmaking teams because the teams are hardly evenly matched as they are.

im making this suggestion already knowing BHS/EME will reject it. "we take player feedback!" *ignores literally everything people say about fraywind canyon queue times*
Edited by: Moolgogi about 1 year ago
Holyfalcon Profile Options #2

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Sarah.Longshot Lvl.65
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Right before I stopped playing I put in a ticket about constantly being kicked from 3s for no good reason, other than maybe my low rating. I sent screenshots of my crysyal setup ans everything and the names and screenshots of who kept kicking me. I was told nothing will be done because that's why the kick option is there and anyone can kick for any reason.
Tangental Profile Options #3

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The sad thing is if they kick you , your rating goes down.

Making it even worse.

They should just hide the ratings in the match-up screen. People get kicked for all sorts of stupid nonsense already.
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Sarah.Longshot Lvl.65
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Read this and try not to laugh




Hello,


I'm sorry to hear that you had a bad experience in Champions' Skyring. However, using the kick function is not a violation of our terms of service. Other players are allowed to kick someone they don't want in the party for any reason.

I understand that it is frustrating to lose rating when being kicked, but that is part of the game design. Unfortunately, it isn't something that can be avoided.

Let me know if you have any other questions or concerns. Take care!

Regards,
Steve "GM Malrok"
EME Customer Support
Moolgogi Profile Options #5

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I dont get kicked out for having bad ratings or being notoriously bad... clueless players just call me bad and they talk a lot of [filtered] with their friends. Im on and off a lot on 3v3 because i really enjoy 3v3 but at the same time i dont enjoy the attitudes of most players that queue it.

my problem isnt really my rating, i have enough experience in 3v3 to know that ratings really dont mean anything most of the time. good players end up with bad ratings and average players do end up with good ratings. its not about rating, its about player attitude. my problem is player toxicity. i have a huge problem with mean players, especially when they are mean without even being skilled in 3v3. and oh boy, is that a controversial one, because literally every last person in 3v3 thinks he is hot [filtered]

im not on 3v3 all the time, so there are people who know more about that specific battleground than i do, but that doesnt mean i dont have an eye for whats really happening. i have a lot of experience in pvp in general, so im still able to make it onto the leader boards really easily (yeah how hard is it to make it onto top 100 anyway right, especially after season reset when its just a big scramble) the toxicity of the players that are in 3v3 is sometimes shocking. these are some of the nastiest people you will ever meet on TERA. im not talking about the people who are actually very good at 3v3 AND show great sportsmanship. im talking about people that talk [filtered] on everyone and blame everyone for their losses when they are in fact often the worst person (or at least not the best...) on their teams and then they tell all their friends about you and then you end up getting kicked out because some dumbass who doesnt even know why he lost is telling everyone that he lost because of you.

people get really frustrated when they dont win, and even if it was their own fault for losing, theyll blame someone else for it because they want to believe they are extremely good. im not in a guild and becuase im so on and off in 3v3, not many people know me or have seen me play in higher brackets. im a stranger to a lot of people and im very easy to blame. my problem with this is that these people actually end up believing its my fault and not thier own, and they tell all their friends that im bad and i have had really bad experiences being kicked out by people like this, for the worst reasons. its times like this when i wish i had recordings of my matches, so people could really study what goes on in the match and realize that it was ACTUALLY not my fault that we lost, and, note the names of my 2 teammates who wrongly blamed me for the loss, and then griefed me by kicking me after that, all just so they could go on believing they are super good.

i want TERA to hide 3v3 ratings. ive had bloodrave. its not because im insecure. its because i know many people ARE. and thats why they become so goddamn toxic in there. im sick of bad attitudes. i want to enjoy 3v3 without having to deal with childish behavior. its hard watching it happen to someone else, too
Edited by: Moolgogi about 1 year ago
xoBarb Profile Options #6

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Hiding 3s ratings wont stop the same trap players from being spam kicked whenever they q
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Yunn.Fang Lvl.65
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I really want to learn how to play 3v3, but people who play are too toxic, healers that think they are the best players in tera, players that judge you for your crystal setup style... Guess i'll stay with CS, even though CS isn't reeeally pvp
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Moolgogi on 04/05/2016, 08:43 AM - view

people get really frustrated when they dont win, and even if it was their own fault for losing, theyll blame someone else for it because they want to believe they are extremely good.


This line basically sums up all battlegrounds in TERA, AS WELL AS most other games. People refusing to admit to mistakes because they don't see the big picture.

The one thing people don't realise is that everyone wants to win. Some may not be as capable to do so, but they are still putting effort to win. It is highly frustrating when you basically need to cover up for mistakes of another person (regardless of support or dps). It gets worse when callouts and arguments break out, essentially resulting in honestly unnecessary kicks.

3s is as of now extremely not newb friendly. Low rewards for subpar gameplay makes most newbies stay out of skyring knowing they will lose even if they try. Coupled with the fact that it is in crusade, making most actual pvp players needing to maintain a high rank to help their guild score their skycastles. Premade 3s not being equalized also makes the majority of the casuals stick to the easiest battleground: CS. Not even FWC because you will just end up feeding anyway.

The rating system alone is not enough to show who cares about pvp, and also instills elitism even in the lower rating bracket. There needs to be something else to allow even the scrubbiest of scrubs to feel welcome in this area, and actually start to learn to get good.
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Mangoland Lvl.65
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Most people don't kick because of rating. They kick because you're in PvE and/or clearly aren't ready for 3s. Considering 3s is the most "competitive" BG, the least you could do is run proper crystals. You wouldn't take someone with randomly rolled +4 schisma with random [filtered] crystals to a queen run; kicking people in PvE crystals in 3's is the same idea.

If you have proper crystals, you're probably just getting kicked by Aroo alts.
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Phelline Lvl.65
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3s is broken bg, leashes don't work 50% of the time, barrage doesn't stagger for some reason it's like they added some magic modifier. People jump when I cc them and desync halfway across the map, and thralls everywhere, brawler aoe spam cant do nothing, reaper just space bar in general direction and win. Warr 100-0, zerks lol crits. 3's super fun , dw you're not missing much