pvp rewards are a bad idea, heres why.

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Karyudo on 03/15/2012, 12:27 PM - view
Just wondering so I can give you nice numbers to chew on how exactly does the DR work that "is proven". How much gap between killing the same person twice? How much less per consecutive kill vs a clean fresh kill?

I honestly don't remember the numbers man. It's been years since I played WoW.

I just remember that when I was serious about grinding out Warlord, it went from common practice, to non-existent overnight, with the implementation of DRs.

Along with that change came boosted honor for achieving objectives in BGs and such. So that probably also played a role in making the legit way of doing things be more beneficial than trying to cheat the system. It worked out so that World PvP was more just "bonus points" when you got HKs that way, but at least you still got something for it.

I understand what you're saying. I just think that you could still probably find a balance and mostly discourage kill trading with DRs, provided you supply incentive to earn more points with another, legitimate way.
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people are still arguing with this kid? seriously? he's got like 2 braincells.


heres an idea - write up a detailed system EXACTLY how you think it should work, and I'll take less than 30 seconds to tell you exactly how I'll exploit it.


but you won't because you know you can't think of one that someone with a IQ higher than a ferret won't figure out a way to exploit.



and i laughted that leiloni tried to paraphrase my post... I was like o.O does she know... ohh well - wonder if a girl saying it nicely will get through to him... ohh nope - she acknowledged it being something I said, so I'm sure his brain turned off. nice try though... I give you an A for effort.

she knows I'm hands down the number 1 kill trader in aion... theres no way I could have legitimately earned all my... lvl 30 gear
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Schneier's Law: "any person can invent a security system so clever that she or he can't think of how to break it."
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Anthraxsnax on 03/15/2012, 01:30 PM - view

heres an idea - write up a detailed system EXACTLY how you think it should work, and I'll take less than 30 seconds to tell you exactly how I'll exploit it.

You're still trying too hard lil' buddy!

WoW's DR system stopped kill trading exploits. Period. It went from commonplace, to non-existent, overnight.

Read the previous posts if you still can't wrap your tiny little head around it.
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Stabbie on 03/15/2012, 01:38 PM - view


WoW's DR system stopped kill trading exploits. Period. It went from commonplace, to non-existent, overnight.


no it didn't... theres no incentive to OWPvP at all... you can just hop in a BG to get 9872398723987 more honor. OWPvP in wow ISNT WORTH DOING, so it proves my point.

if the limitations are so strict, it will no longer be worth doing legitimately anyways.
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Karyudo on 03/15/2012, 01:36 PM - view
Schneier's Law: "any person can invent a security system so clever that she or he can't think of how to break it."


bahahaha thats pretty good, too bad it probably flew right over stabbies tiny pimply head.
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Anthraxsnax on 03/15/2012, 01:54 PM - view

no it didn't... theres no incentive to OWPvP at all... you can just hop in a BG to get 9872398723987 more honor. OWPvP in wow ISNT WORTH DOING, so it proves my point.

if the limitations are so strict, it will no longer be worth doing legitimately anyways.

Yes, it did.

I agree that there's no incentive to World PvP in WoW anymore. But that has nothing to do with DRs. World PvP was alive and well long after DRs got implemented. Especially during the expansions. It was destroyed by a number of other factors over time. Primarily the ability to queue for everything from major cities.

But thank you for proving my point! They gave an alternative that earned more points than cheating, so the cheating stopped.
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Stabbie on 03/15/2012, 01:58 PM - view

But thank you for proving my point! They gave an alternative that earned more points than cheating, so the cheating stopped.


give me on paper the exact system right now, so I can disprove this.
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Anthraxsnax on 03/15/2012, 02:16 PM - view


give me on paper the exact system right now, so I can disprove this.

http://bit.ly/u0X2I4

You just admitted yourself that you can earn more Honor in BGs than you can by kill trading.

Are you really this retarded?

Aren't you the same guy that was crying in some other thread that you couldn't play WoW because "the classes were too imba"? lolz. You're bad.

While you're on the WoW site, take a look at the Top 100 Teams in each Arena bracket. You'll see almost every makeup you could think of and no single setup with higher than 6% of the bracket in 2v2 and none higher than 1% in 5v5.

So please cry to me some more about how you couldn't win because of your setup. It's amusing. The fact is, you couldn't win because you're bad.

It's almost too easy to keep proving you wrong, when you keep making declarative statements that ignore facts.
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Anthraxsnax on 03/15/2012, 02:16 PM - view
Stabbie on 03/15/2012, 01:58 PM


But thank you for proving my point! They gave an alternative that earned more points than cheating, so the cheating stopped.




give me on paper the exact system right now, so I can disprove this.


He is saying that the way to stop the system from being exploited is to provide a totally different system that gives you access to the same rewards faster. If 1h doing battle grounds gives far greater reward win or lose then exploiting world pvp the world pvp exploits will stop. In fact with this in place the only reasons to do OW PvP are the ones that already exsist! So why is this an argument for OW PvP rewards?

His DR system he doesnt know it works he just believes it is what killed it in his Nation Based system so it should obviously work in a FFA system.
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