Baraka, The 2 best racial for PVP but huge hitbox...

Zergling Profile Options #1

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Besides they obvious auto 100% heal, I think this is actually one of the best pvp abilities out there:

Stopping a baraka is like holding back an avalanche. Baraka have a 10% bonus to resist binding or paralyzing effects. Passive.

I've looked it up and paralyze effects are: Stuns and sleeps. So basically this is 10% bonus to resist all PvP CC.

I can't think of any other class with such a game changing ability (AND an auto heal). Question is, is the hit box worth it?
Hellraizer Profile Options #2

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Hit boxes have all been roughly normalized so its almost negligible. The only real downside to being Baraka is how huge they are, essentially screaming, HEY KILL ME FIRST
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Hellraizer on 04/18/2012, 04:30 PM - view
Hit boxes have all been roughly normalized so its almost negligible. The only real downside to being Baraka is how huge they are, essentially screaming, HEY KILL ME FIRST


Yes roughly normalized as you say but the devs said there will be some limits to actually how normalized they are based on the extreme size differences
Jaxian Profile Options #4

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I had never even noticed the difference in hit box sizes, so I think that the racials are definitely worth it. However, unless you are doing PvP only once every 2 hours, I feel that the Amani racials are better, as PvP CC was far from as devastating as in some other games, such as WoW, at least from what experience I had.

Still, Baraka is good enough that it's a tough call. I feel that these are the two races worth considering.
Edited by: Jaxian about 1 year ago
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I can see it being painfull to kill on a 1x1 fight but well on anything above that he is major candidate to be overly cc'ed and kept there to be ravanged by 2 or more people at once would make the skill not so good at all...

But still it's better then my High elf racials wich are somehow pointless.
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Jaxian on 04/18/2012, 04:45 PM - view
I had never even noticed the difference in hit box sizes, so I think that the racials are definitely worth it. However, unless you are doing PvP only once every 2 hours, I feel that the Amani racials are better, as PvP CC was far from as devastating as in some other games, such as WoW, at least from what experience I had.

Still, Baraka is good enough that it's a tough call. I feel that these are the two races worth considering.


Well, from what I've read is that a lot of deaths in pvp comes from 1 hit kills from people such as zerker or sorc firestorm aoe (whatever its called) two hard to land spells that benefit from CC. I think CC is a major component to PVP and a big game changer at this point
Travail Profile Options #7

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IMO, Elin still come out ahead in racial advantages, due to their size.

Hit box advantage isn't the only thing the Elin have over other races. They also have one of the longest effective attack ranges. The devs compensated for their small stature by making Elin move forward while attacking, more than other races. But it was an overcompensation, so that now, Elin actually have the longest reach, on most melee classes (Warrior and Berserker for sure. I can't personally confirm the others.)

Hit boxes are important as well. They have been "normalized," but are still far from equal. Some attacks that would hit an Aman or Baraka go right over the head of an Elin or Popori. If a Popori or Elin is right up in your face, some of your attacks will miss them by hitting "behind" them, because your own character's reach is so long that your point of attack registers behind your enemy's hit box.

It's rarely noticeable in PvE, but in PvP it can be a game changer. Not to mention they also attack "lower to the ground," and also don't have the arm reach to hit "behind" other player's hit boxes, meaning it's easier for Elin and Popori to hit other Elin and Popori. They also don't jump as high, which is a good thing. Where a Human or Aman Warrior occasionally jumps clear over an Elin while using "Pounce" (Pounce is a leaping attack) for example, Elin don't have that problem due to their slightly reduced jump height.

-Travail.
Edited by: Travail about 1 year ago
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Zergling on 04/18/2012, 05:40 PM - view
Well, from what I've read is that a lot of deaths in pvp comes from 1 hit kills from people such as zerker or sorc firestorm aoe (whatever its called) two hard to land spells that benefit from CC. I think CC is a major component to PVP and a big game changer at this point


Huh, interesting. I never came close to being one-hit killed in PvP. It seemed to take a large number of hits to fell someone in PvP, actually. Perhaps I never got to high enough level? Or maybe it's because the fights you speak of involve a lot of people casting a spell in the same area?
MadcatGTs Profile Options #9

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The Full HP racial is not that huge of a deal. You can get potions that do much the same thing on 30 sec CD's.

Now the binding thing is also kinda meh as well, as you can use scrolls to give the very same effect, if not a more powerful one at that. Now, does the scroll stack with racial? not sure, never tested this but, again its not a huge deal. As CC is very abundant in PvP, its just very short or breaks on damage anyhow.
C4leb Profile Options #10

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Depending on the class, their attack range might not be as good. I think Baraka lancers had pretty crappy range if I recall. It isn't a huge difference but one to take note of.

Honestly if your by yourself and your about to get ganked a full hp heal could easily be the difference between dying and escaping.

I think all berserker's are the same, castanic slayers get a huge leap in their combo and ellin/high elf males had the best lancer ranges. Surprised myself to say high elves get something decent hehe
Edited by: C4leb about 1 year ago