Quote: Sanova on 03/18/2012, 09:04 PM

how exactly does 40 people not caring = 40 who want the changes reversed?

Don't waste your breath. Malamasala has been consistently twisting statistics and presenting false, misleading numbers and setting up biased poles to try and prove a non-existent point. I've given up trying to explain to them why.

But as I've said before, exaggeration, hyperbole, misinformation and misrepresentation seems to be a recurring theme in this debate. From both sides. Malamasala is just a contributor.

i just dont know how someone can say 40 people not having an opinion = agreeing with your side. I'm seriously tryingto understand how someone can honestly consciously distort the numbers that badly

Quote: Sanova on 03/18/2012, 09:22 PM

i just dont know how someone can say 40 people not having an opinion = agreeing with your side. I'm seriously tryingto understand how someone can honestly consciously distort the numbers that badly

Honestly I wont be bothered to go back and reread it, but I thought the point he was trying to make was that even if you added the ones who hadn't stated an opinion into the pro-censorship crowd, anti-censorship still outnumbered them 3 to 1.

But I more or less just pulled that out of my rear.

Quote: Lurkios on 03/18/2012, 09:26 PM

Quote: Sanova on 03/18/2012, 09:22 PM

i just dont know how someone can say 40 people not having an opinion = agreeing with your side. I'm seriously tryingto understand how someone can honestly consciously distort the numbers that badly

Honestly I wont be bothered to go back and reread it, but I thought the point he was trying to make was that even if you added the ones who hadn't stated an opinion into the pro-censorship crowd, anti-censorship still outnumbered them 3 to 1.

But I more or less just pulled that out of my rear.

they're basically saying the people that don't care are automatically on their side against the changes. It's like doing a poll on obamacare and the Democrats claiming those who don't care are for obamacare, and the Republicans claiming those who don't care are against obamacare. It's just beyond stupid and this thread needs to be locked

Quote: Retief on 03/18/2012, 08:55 PM

Quote: Malamasala on 03/18/2012, 04:24 PM

My personal assumption is that anyone who don't like the current armors, would be happier with improved art. Would they be satisfied? Depends on if they want originals, but they'd still most likely be happier. So I don't feel the need to sort people out, based on their highest wishes.

Problem is, how would you define improved art? Some people appeared to really like the new designs Destian put up. To me they looked age inappropriate; more fitting on a much older looking toon.

You don't know much about lolita fashion, do you?

Sorry, no, not into gothic lolita. To me the replacement designs look appropriate on 60 year ladies in an Elizabethan court, the none metallic armor ones at least. I had only a few days ago read a 58 slide "making fun of inappropriate age attire" article, which pointed out 20 yo celebs who dressed like a 50 yo and vice versa. Then I saw the new, proposed designs and they jarred. Too stuffy, too heavy, too ornate.