Elins in Lore

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I'm just a bit curious, but from what I've played so far, Elins seem very...under-represented and very poorly represented in TERA lore. Perhaps this changes in Kaitor and the 50+ levels, but up until now, Elins (and popori/baraka) have no memorable characters attached to their names, For all the other races: high elves seem to be the favorite pet of the TERA storyline with no less than two reoccuring major characters (Elleon and Fraya, both of whom kick all sorts of filtered) as well as Elleon's brother. Samael, Dougal, and Burke are all memorable human characters that played important roles in the Velika arc. Castanics and Aman aren't as well-represented, although Kaidun and Jelena each played their significant part in the storyline, each of which had their own dungeon (SM and NT respectively). Through the eyes of these NPCs, we see how grand each of these races are in the world. Never once, though, was there an Elin (or Popori/Baraka) that was featured as an important character in the storyline; those races seem to be relegated to random quest-givers at best.

Thus, the only way to even get a perspective on these races is from their respective stories.

Now, Poporis establish themselves pretty well to the player with Prefect Paka, who is quite rightfully concerned with all sorts of undead and mutating stuff going on outside of the city walls. For the popori quests (which are a major part of the story), players investigate mutating soldiers, plagues, and a lok conspiracy shrouded in vampir mysteries - you know, actual problems. Plus, the guy was respectful of your accomplishments and called Burke a [filtered], so that's bonus points for the cuddly little panda-man.

Barakas never really get their own story with Fraya taking over the Allemanthia arc, although the intro videos establish them very well as a wisdom-loving race. Perhaps they could have gotten a better treatment in lore as well, but the intro video, at least, establishes them as a wise race.

So what about Elins? The first and only time we focus on Elins as a part of a story quest is the events of Pora Elinu (which doesn't even have an associated instance like Poporia did). We were tasked with "something that requires finesse and diplomancy instead of force," and arrive on the scene to find ourselves mediating a silly argument over flag designs, with both of the Elin princesses acting like spoiled brats. Keep in mind that this is the first and only time that Elins are at the forefront of the scene, and the only impression that we get of a "race that's wiser than they look" are two spoiled-rotten children.

So, my question is this - what exactly are Elins supposed to be? Are they really mature and wise like their racial descriptions would have us believe, or are they really mostly like the princesses that we encounter in Pora Elinu? If it's the former, it's kinda difficult for us to understand the race when the princesses are the only time that we see an Elin in the spotlight.

And besides, why should the high elves be the only ones with badass, memorable NPCs =p?
Edited by: Serenade about 2 years ago
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Serenade on 06/05/2012, 06:05 PM - view
And besides, why should the high elves be the only ones with badass, memorable NPCs =p?


Because Elves lead the way
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Actually if you read the NPC text from the surrounding Elins you find that even they think the two princesses are acting like spoiled brats. But i have to agree that Elins are way underrepresented in the entire NPC aspect of the game, They don't even make appearences in alot if not all of the main cutscenes it's always a poppori (probably comes from the elin and poppori originally being the same race)

From what i gathered from the NPC and quests, there seems to be some sort of Council as well as ruling monachy for the elins. They live about the same lifespan of humans (seriously, why were they changed from long lived mystical beings to average human lifespan?)

The race page says they are more mature than their appearance would have you believe and tend to enjoy causing pranks and jokes.

But that really is about all I know about them, i think tehre was a Lore wiki somewhere but i don't think that it has much more.
Edited by: Fllnfalcon about 2 years ago
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Fllnfalcon on 06/05/2012, 08:25 PM - view
Actually if you read the NPC text from the surrounding Elins you find that even they think the two princesses are acting like spoiled brats. But i have to agree that Elins are way underrepresented in the entire NPC aspect of the game, They don't even make appearences in alot if not all of the main cutscenes it's always a poppori (probably comes from the elin and poppori originally being the same race)

From what i gathered from the NPC and quests, there seems to be some sort of Council as well as ruling monachy for the elins. They live about the same lifespan of humans (seriously, why were they changed from long lived mystical beings to average human lifespan?)

The race page says they are more mature than their appearance would have you believe and tend to enjoy causing pranks and jokes.

But that really is about all I know about them, i think tehre was a Lore wiki somewhere but i don't think that it has much more.


Elin lore was a bit butchered when it was translated for unknown reasons, and not for the OMG LOLI CENSORSHIP thing that people believe. I think it was because people are really inexperienced with common fey lore and just assume that only elves and dwarves are long lived.

As far as Popori and Elin being the same race...they are and they aren't. Thing is, even in the kTERA lore both races are sexless. Elin are wood nymphs and Popori are forest spirits. They're very different from other mortal races in that they are actual faeries. The way the new TERA lore approaches this subject is that the mind of an Elin is immortal (or at least long-lived) and manages to create a new ageless body every time it "dies." It's a sort of regenerative immortality, and the body it creates is the same every time.

As far as their actual lore...some people who have played kTERA have said that the original Pori Elinu storyline involved the sisters engaging in an actual civil war and the one currently in the capital organizing an assassination plot for the same mistake of thinking the other was building an army to attack the throne. While changing it to a flag argument is kind of stupid, the same context is more or less there. For the rest of their story, that's just how it is. Humans are supposedly the most important race for establishing the Federation (even though you have little to do with it post 30) and the major players of the other races each have huge capital cities. The Elin, Baraka, and Popori don't matter that much because the Baraka are wanderers, and the Elin/Popori really don't concern themselves with a lot of things. There is one Elin character you go out of your way to try and find later (SPOILER: you find her as an Argon as part of the quest discovering they can transform anyone) but other than that they're not highly represented due to their character lore. Blame kTERA for that one.
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Ktera when released, had the poppori and the elin as the same race. The game files even still have the Elin lables as Poppori_F. Ktera retconned their lore to seperate them into two different races because of a backlash from their player community. (furries + child like beings, apparently = BAAAD)

It was changed due to complaints from their player base, unlike the Elin armor here that was changed to preempt any such complaints (apparently, didn't work)

So it's Now, Elin were beings created by their goddess, Elin then created the Poppori to help protect nature.

That unfortunately is all we get really. Hopefully we'll see a bit more exploration of the Elin lore in future updates but for now it's pretty much "make up your own lore adventure" for the elins.

With the amount of shyness that both Enmasse and bluehole approach the elin with, i'm kinda suprized they're still in the game. They and the Poppori really seem more like a flavor race than anything that a main character should/could be playing.
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At least the Elin have a monopoly on Teleport Master postings. In fact it seems that these rabbit-eared, fox-tailed creatures with ridiculous hats are the only face behind teleport services, making sure to remind that I leave for the next camp with a full-stomach and watching over me with their ears.

Similarly, it seems like the Popori have a majority of the Flight Master jobs, as well as a large portion of banking positions.


If anything, it looks like the races mentioned here are perfectly content with protecting nature -or amassing knowledge in the case with Baraka- while helping the federation with logistical/misc duties.

This may explain why there are no major figures in the story line since the Baraka, Elin and Popori tend to gravitate toward roles that don't seem to get them heavily involved with critical moves against major antagonists.

They're hidden in the back ground supporting the heroes in their own way.
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Squishington on 06/07/2012, 01:37 AM - view
At least the Elin have a monopoly on Teleport Master postings. In fact it seems that these rabbit-eared, fox-tailed creatures with ridiculous hats are the only face behind teleport services, making sure to remind that I leave for the next camp with a full-stomach and watching over me with their ears.

Similarly, it seems like the Popori have a majority of the Flight Master jobs, as well as a large portion of banking positions.


If anything, it looks like the races mentioned here are perfectly content with protecting nature -or amassing knowledge in the case with Baraka- while helping the federation with logistical/misc duties.

This may explain why there are no major figures in the story line since the Baraka, Elin and Popori tend to gravitate toward roles that don't seem to get them heavily involved with critical moves against major antagonists.

They're hidden in the back ground supporting the heroes in their own way.


Don't forget, Popori monopolized the town cleric jobs!

That, and Baraka get some more general light shined on them after the argon questline is mostly up and you start on the Balders story line. One that pretty much fits them. Along with Popori making a heavy showing as tourists and being a large part of the faction there. Some Elin around too.

Baraka don't seem all that ambitious, so someone who takes the spotlight like Fraya or Elleon wouldn't really fit anyway. I *can* see them being part of a group that gets some of the limelight, but that's about it. There are a few elin that are practically co-stars later on

[[SPOILER]]
Also, One of the princesses makes an appearance in the Balder's temple story arch. While not as much of the light as others, she does play an important role and you have to work with her in some quests/cutscenes
Edited by: Regpuppy about 2 years ago
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Shunkwugga on 06/06/2012, 12:56 AM - view
Fllnfalcon on 06/05/2012, 08:25 PM
Actually if you read the NPC text from the surrounding Elins you find that even they think the two princesses are acting like spoiled brats. But i have to agree that Elins are way underrepresented in the entire NPC aspect of the game, They don't even make appearences in alot if not all of the main cutscenes it's always a poppori (probably comes from the elin and poppori originally being the same race)

From what i gathered from the NPC and quests, there seems to be some sort of Council as well as ruling monachy for the elins. They live about the same lifespan of humans (seriously, why were they changed from long lived mystical beings to average human lifespan?)

The race page says they are more mature than their appearance would have you believe and tend to enjoy causing pranks and jokes.

But that really is about all I know about them, i think tehre was a Lore wiki somewhere but i don't think that it has much more.


Elin lore was a bit butchered when it was translated for unknown reasons, and not for the OMG LOLI CENSORSHIP thing that people believe. I think it was because people are really inexperienced with common fey lore and just assume that only elves and dwarves are long lived.

As far as Popori and Elin being the same race...they are and they aren't. Thing is, even in the kTERA lore both races are sexless. Elin are wood nymphs and Popori are forest spirits. They're very different from other mortal races in that they are actual faeries. The way the new TERA lore approaches this subject is that the mind of an Elin is immortal (or at least long-lived) and manages to create a new ageless body every time it "dies." It's a sort of regenerative immortality, and the body it creates is the same every time.

As far as their actual lore...some people who have played kTERA have said that the original Pori Elinu storyline involved the sisters engaging in an actual civil war and the one currently in the capital organizing an assassination plot for the same mistake of thinking the other was building an army to attack the throne. While changing it to a flag argument is kind of stupid, the same context is more or less there. For the rest of their story, that's just how it is. Humans are supposedly the most important race for establishing the Federation (even though you have little to do with it post 30) and the major players of the other races each have huge capital cities. The Elin, Baraka, and Popori don't matter that much because the Baraka are wanderers, and the Elin/Popori really don't concern themselves with a lot of things. There is one Elin character you go out of your way to try and find later (SPOILER: you find her as an Argon as part of the quest discovering they can transform anyone) but other than that they're not highly represented due to their character lore. Blame kTERA for that one.



I really hope to see more of the Elin and Popori if/ when later content is released. There could be alot done, if the ones writing the lore would put some good effort into it.
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Squishington on 06/07/2012, 01:37 AM - view
At least the Elin have a monopoly on Teleport Master postings. In fact it seems that these rabbit-eared, fox-tailed creatures with ridiculous hats are the only face behind teleport services, making sure to remind that I leave for the next camp with a full-stomach and watching over me with their ears.

Similarly, it seems like the Popori have a majority of the Flight Master jobs, as well as a large portion of banking positions.


If anything, it looks like the races mentioned here are perfectly content with protecting nature -or amassing knowledge in the case with Baraka- while helping the federation with logistical/misc duties.

This may explain why there are no major figures in the story line since the Baraka, Elin and Popori tend to gravitate toward roles that don't seem to get them heavily involved with critical moves against major antagonists.

They're hidden in the back ground supporting the heroes in their own way.


i really like that view since it just makes sense. it's not just all about heroes but people who actually keep the system going, provide adventurers and aid in dangerous battles.
i really would love to see more lore myself though. i love playing elins and i may also try poporis :D
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In the Elin Native language, High Elf translates to meat shield.