I take that back. The odds of a situation where a parent issue would crop up because of a change in the EULA thats not going to happen already with the current Elin armor already is minimal. As Nox said, the differences are marginal but enough that a aesthetically orientated person is put off, and would not prevent any parent from raging about the game already.

Also would not change the fact that EME can keep up the appearance that they tried to, do whatever it is they were trying to do when they censored the Elin.

Quote: phantazum on 2012-03-05 08:50:22 UTC - view

I think its a very, very, bad idea to skimp on anything regarding legal matters. People in business can get screwed over the slightest kink in their legal armor. IIRC someone posted a reply letter from EME customer support stating that the KTERA files are not considered official files for NATERA thus branding anything from KTERA as an illegal mod.

Let me for a moment play out the scenario in my head:

Parent buys TERA for kid -> Parent sees patched Elins -> Parent complains (with lawyer) to ESRB -> ESRB sees mods and refuses responsibility for unapproved mods thus voiding their rating -> Parent complains to ESRB about buying a game that is potentially rated higher than what ESRB has rated -> Lawyer points out EME approved the mods in EULA -> EME takes it in the [filtered] -> ESRB calls about content rating violation and imposes a fine -> EME takes another one in the [filtered]

i'm typing this with bloodshot eyes as my cat decided to wake me up and then completely hog the bed when i came back from the bathroom.

you guys arent going to get what you want, your "feedback" only gets you so far, and a lot of the people complaining give unconstructive posts stating if they dont have it their way then they wont buy the game. en masse has not breached a contract with any of you (fairly certain), its their game (also fairly certain), this game wont fail just because a group of people dont like some art textures. i understand that the censorship seems hastily done, but it will NOT be undone, and chances are unless they are, or have been working on it right at this very moment then the new textures wont available until sometime after release.

so you have a choice, hang in there and wait for the upgraded armors or dont buy the game, the second one being completely foolism in my personal opinion, but i dont mind if you dont buy it as it will keep you off my ignore list when you start spamming chats about it, but moving on from there, what isnt a choice is modding.

if they allowed the modding of the art work, then why not allow the modding of the entire game? why CANT i have infinite health and mana? why CANT i 1 shot people with a lancer just by running through them? others are allowed to mod, why not me. and to counter someone whos gonna say "but Sky55! that is most certainly not the same thing, the artwork change would not break the game!"
the artwork change will not break the game
the artwork change will not break the game
the artwork change will not break the game

i'm sure some of you who are oblivious wonder why i repeated that statement a few times. one of you smarter people please explain it to em, i'm going back to bed.

Quote: phantazum on 2012-03-05 09:04:12 UTC - view

We're just going to circle the already illogical point now.

I was just throwing it out there, since there were an awful lot of people in the thread that seemed confused about what or who might have prompted their decision to make those changes.

@ Noxillian

And EME denies responsibility as they did not provide the game files in question "mods". The EULA clearly states they are not responsible for any files downloaded from a 3rd party website and are not responsible for any files altered by the user and not the official En-Masse TERA launcher. Concerned parent takes one in the [filtered].

Quote: phantazum on 2012-03-05 09:20:41 UTC - view

Pretty much, yep.

...and then both EME and the parent go back and forth until they end up in court where both lawyers make a [filtered] ton of money while everyone else takes it in the [filtered].

In the end I claim no expertise in legal matters and unless you have a law degree in the field of business we're both just talking out our [filtered]. However I find this kind of discussion far more productive than most of the content 40 pages back.

It's really up to EME that if they decide to go with this kind of decision to make sure their legal armor is air tight.

And how would that be any different than it is now? The same situation would happen regardless. If there is someone out there who wants someone else to be responsible for their own failures, they will find a way to make everyone else miserable. Either way, the EULA can be changed in such a way that EME states that they will not take administrative measures for users modding the game with other official Tera files and still maintain their lack of responsibility for a user doing so.

What you're trying to suggest is that NATERA try to pull a WoW with the mod community.

I'm not exactly sure how WoW protects themselves from legal aggression from mods they don't agree with but it seems to work (I think). However as I stated before I recalled seeing a statement that effectively brands KTERA assets as a 3rd party mod and as a result can not be worded in a manner officially that approves their presence in-game. Which is the part of where pulling a WoW comes into play.

That is them stating, that when they feel like banning you for using Elin mods, when their hash check bans you for using Elin mods or when you post about your Elin mods and they ban you, you do not have a leg to stand on. It has nothing to do with the ESRP, its them covering all angles so that they can flash it in your face when they dont need you anymore.

This is why you all need to be pushing for these changes. If history is anything to go on, there is a high probability that they will eventually ban anyone modding the game with the original Korean files.