Quote: Destian on 03/12/2012, 09:08 AM

But the reaction to the Elins by the NA focus groups (and I'm SURE they did focus testing with them) was that they look like young girls, and I'm also guessing that those same focus groups probably found some of their armors a bit off-putting.

In fact, I'd be willing to bet that most of these decisions came from focus testing and not from a judgement call from within EME itself.

So again, I think they just went with what the focus groups said. They wouldn't dare to make a decision like that themselves. That's the kind of thing that gets executives fired by higher-ranking executives.

I was a part of the Focus Group, The Elin were not playable in North America by anyone until the recent Closed Beta test, which lead to some disappointment since the race had been announced by that point, a later Community test and again they were not available, a few weeks later the announcement of censorship took place, so no, We had no say in it.

The input regrading the Elin in any way was little to none, other than "Where is the Elin Race"?

Not only that but because of the l-a-c-k- of communication from En-Masse, we have no idea how TERA is going to be censored for the future or what's already been censored besides the armors.

Is the game going to be put on hold when K-TERA comes out with their inner-wear so En-Masse can slap on a censor sticker for a two-piece armor?

Those are the things that come into play. Have any of the cut-scenes been snipped or altered out so elin dissapears from the view-point?

What about the Artwork? You can't show the developer artwork because apparently elin is sooo non-western that she must be hidden and left out of the artwork.

This whole "for the western audience" is complete crap. It's like the anime community doesn't even exists yet they'll be the FIRST ones to play these asian mmo games. Because the character was designed in an animu-like fashion. We are not a minority, and even if we were deemed as so by a small few, our voices matter as much as the voices of the RP or PvP communities.

Do you want the full, version of TERA or the edited chopped up censored version that makes no sense for a M-rated game.

It's like Game-Stop over here. It's funny how NIS/Atlas/Funanimation/ADV/ (who were one of the few companies that always released "Collector Editions" for the games besides Working Designs) can release their games or show without a problem for their audience rating, but En-Masse must deem every petite fictional race in-game as real-life kids.

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The average opinion is that children are fine in bikinis.

1. I don't think we can say with any degree of certainty that this is GUARANTEED to be the average opinion.

2. I don't think it was the average opinion that EME was worried about. They were more concerned that enough people with non-average opinions would raise a stink about it than people with average opinions being fine with it. People with average opinions won't think any worse of the game, especially when most never even knew it was censored.

I'm loving this, just this morning i canceled my pre order, and an amazing thing happened... I no longer care about what Elin look like. It's a feeling no words can describe, the sheer weight that has been lifted. It feels good... So now i can cleanly be a 3rd party observer, and comment as such.

Every comment said to support the censorship can be made invalid with facts, every comment against the censorship can be made invalid with facts. So by equation facts make "for" and "against" statements invalid, meaning last 87/88 pages of this thread are invalid. (my posts included)

edit: as well considering the lack of action people are taking. Anything people say against EME is a hypocritical statement, if you don't like something get off the train. Shouting from the back to the locomotive will change nothing.

You may feel that being neutral is the best position for you, which is not a problem. As for hypocrisy, there has been a lot of it centering around Elin indeed.