The advantage is negligible.

Unless I missed something, it is only on Elin berserkers, using only a single skill, and only at max distance, and only against a test character that doesn't move.

So if you move in PvP, it is already much less chance it happens. If you attack the Elin, the distance is probably less than max and the benefit is gone. And of course, the Elin could be playing another class, or pressing one of all their other skills.

I'd wager that on average this will only effect your PvP results in 1 match in 1000 matches. The rest 999 will depend on skill and not reach. So yea, if you happen to die 1 time in 1000 duels, you can claim it was just the Elin advantage that screwed you.

i am in favor of the ones backing up the range you are right it is a momentum thing i have noticed recently on my elin zerk that if i am too close to the mob when i use TS due to momentum and how the char moves forwards (not reaching forward, but moving forward) i actually can miss the mob. so in a way it goes both ways if you are too close the elin shift forward which is how it should be when carrying a big Axe you will miss the mob is less about range and hitboxes as it about timing, precision, and placement.

and i know ppl are gonna say i don't have an issue cause i play an elin my main is actually an Aman mystic so i have one of each size. watch the animations i orginally started the zerk as an Aman and she swings the axe with one hand it is effortless the elin looks like she is working hard to bring the axe around as it should be

To "fix" the Elin range, they'll have to reanimate every single animation of the Elins attacks. As if you just simply shorten the range then every attack hit box will be behind them rather then the intended point of impact, aka the weapon.

So better if they will start work fast. That is sad to look at this broken balance.

Quote: Zdzisiu on 07/30/2012, 10:39 AM - view
Agree. This also causes there to be such a dis proportion of any other race compared to Elin. It forces those who don't want to play one to play for the edge. I know a ton of people who play elin for their range and hitbox only, but they don't wanna play a lil girl

You seem to know a lot of failures then, considering they think they can't stay competitive unless they have the biggest advantage they can get. They are practically telling you that they suck so much at Tera, they can only play it on easy mode.

If I didn't like Elins, I'd take pride in being skilled at another race. Pride doesn't seem to exist in the PvP community though.

Quote: Malamasala on 08/05/2012, 11:14 AM - view
It is what is. Judging the people who do it does not reduce the effect in any way. The fact remains that tons of people play Elins sheerly for their advantage with a small hitbox as well as having the longest range. It may not be much, but anyone who knows anything about maxing knows it matters.

Why don't you tell me all the abilities on Elins that are better than on other races? Because the whining keeps making it sound like EVERYTHING is better on an Elin, while the few examples I hear make it sound like 1 ability on 1 class.

And I honestly don't see it worth EME's time to "balance" something out that is such a small piece of the whole game. It is like asking for them to balance out "Fighting in zone X next to the rocks A and B, which gives an unfair advantage to sorcerers!".

Cry more. The hitbox that makes it damn near impossible to judge if you're standing in an AOE or not and a weapon range that makes it so you cant hit something standing right in front of you isn't really much of an advantage - not to mention the completely useless racials.

Can't even use soothing presence in instances... Pointless at 60.

If anyone still cares, i found a video comparing the melee ranges on every race. If your too lazy to watch the video, Male Castanic Slayers, Female High Elf Berserker, Elin Lancers, and Male High Elf Warriors have the longest range for those respective classes, so Elins actually dont have the longest melee range for every class. And for the dodges for slayers and warriors, its goes the same distance for every race. I hope this stops this stupid [filtered] argument.