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*snaps fingers*
Psst guys arguing about the amount of RPPvPers needed to support a server vs the actual amount of RPPvPers, I said this a few pages back, but I want to bring it up again.
If EME had the capability to do this, what if on Celestial Hills, each zone could have a PvP channel that functions like a PvP server (except for GvG declarations), but would still be tied to the Celestial Hills server? That way we could have all the RPers we need to have a bustling RP server, but the RPPvPers wouldn't miss out on their preferred play-style!
Littleman on 2012-03-05 21:12:55 UTC
Because that would just be devastating. Despite what others might believe, there are more PvErs, and consequentially, more RP-PvErs than there are their PvP counter-parts.
this where im saying that the amount of actual RP-PVP'ers are not clearly enough to serve any benefit to EME except cost them more than they need to pay. You cannot expect them to implement a server for such a small minority that will leave the server practically empty
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It's a step in the right directing, but as is, I can't see it working on execution. Problem with only have channel specific PvP areas is that in order for people to be the good guys, there needs to be bad guys, but there can't be bad guys if they don't have anyone to kill/rob or whatever, and no one is going to to roll on the PvP channels when they can just be safe on PvE channels. The risk a channel system would bring, would be at most artificial and self induced. You'd go there expecting a fight, rather than just reacting to when one occurs.
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No one's denying there are very large guilds waiting for their RP-PvP server. I'm actually pretty confident there are more RPers out there for both server types than we would realistically imagine.
But we're turning a blind eye in thinking the RP-PvPer numbers are larger than the RP-PvEr numbers. No MMO I've played has hosted more RP-PvPer servers than RP-PvE servers, and the populations on the latter typically were higher than the former as well.
As I said with in the rest of my post that everyone has conveniently skipped... >.>
While it's in everyone's best interest to consolidate role-players to as few servers as possible, I suspect EME is also playing it safe, and probably underestimating our numbers in total.
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Littleman on 2012-03-06 01:59:52 UTCNo one's denying there are very large guilds waiting for their RP-PvP server. I'm actually pretty confident there are more RPers out there for both server types than we would realistically imagine.
But we're turning a blind eye in thinking the RP-PvPer numbers are larger than the RP-PvEr numbers. No MMO I've played has hosted more RP-PvPer servers than RP-PvE servers, and the populations on the latter typically were higher than the former as well.
As I said with in the rest of my post that everyone has conveniently skipped... >.>
While it's in everyone's best interest to consolidate role-players to as few servers as possible, I suspect EME is also playing it safe, and probably underestimating our numbers in total.
He's right. There are always more RP-PvE'rs than there are RP-PvP'rs. He's not saying you shouldn't have a server, he's just saying it makes absolutely no sense to take away RP-PvE in exchange for RP-PvP.
They should have one of both. I think we can all agree on that.
-Zeroden
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Changels on 2012-03-06 01:31:14 UTC
It's a step in the right directing, but as is, I can't see it working on execution. Problem with only have channel specific PvP areas is that in order for people to be the good guys, there needs to be bad guys, but there can't be bad guys if they don't have anyone to kill/rob or whatever, and no one is going to to roll on the PvP channels when they can just be safe on PvE channels. The risk a channel system would bring, would be at most artificial and self induced. You'd go there expecting a fight, rather than just reacting to when one occurs.
Well by that logic, why would anyone roll on an RPPvP server when there's an eternally safe RPPvE server to play on? And 100% of the players on an RPPvP server would be all agro all the time, and no one would have to react because everyone would be at everyone else's throats. ;D
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Because on a PvP server, it would take away your option from going back and forth. It's a lot easier to change channels than it is to change servers. I'm not denying your point though that there will be people who choose PvE over PvP for the very reason you pointed out; but I'm saying as a RP-PvP'er we'd rather choose not to have the option to be safe at any time and play with people who feel likewise, if that makes sense.
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