5v5s, 10v10s, have a lot to do about comp setup, but even moreso with how well you play with the people you are teamedwith. Epeens 10v10s were the first organized pvp weve really had in awhile, but more importantly it was a lot of peoples first time playing together in PvP with some of the new guys we picked up. Needless to say, it showed in the result.

UR is good at their DM, and we will face them again. Our clan has always been pretty damn small too but it has undergone a lot of change recently as well due to TERAs content and EME's enforcement. I look forward to DMs in the future, but to UR, please dont act like your one video of UR winning fights on epeen is how it is. Youve been kicked all over the place in open world, and were under estimated due to how much of a pushover you are outside of your recent DM. Im not trying to be insulting, but just being frank with the reality of the situation. We can fight more in the future, hopefully on friendlier terms, but definately more prepared.

Quote: GoldTrain on 07/12/2012, 10:59 AM - view

If you are referring to Nexus, I'm sorry we make you guys jump all over the place, but I personally don't feel like charging headfirst into another guild that can run over us with numbers alone. We did ask for more DMs, daily, but received no reply.

Also, speaking of comp set up, ours is far from "optimal", noticed how many slayers we have? We are not exactly a big guild, we do what we can, and often times going with sub-optimal set up like anyone else.

As for "pvp e-creds", the videos posted in the UR channel so far showed the results of our fights, really don't care if the server thinks we are good or not. Lacari said something, and I merely answered.

EDIT: Also, don't get me wrong, I respect you guys for agreeing to the DM and fighting it out. Although I have to say my respect did slowly erode thanks to a few bad apples in your guild over the next few days.

Quote: GoldTrain on 07/12/2012, 10:59 AM - view

Internally, we're just starting to get satisfied that we're improving as a group for pvp. To be frank, the main reason any of us are touting the 10v10s is due to the surprising amount of [filtered] talk your guys are pushing out when you can regularly pull online of 35+ of your ~60 members, to our peak 20 or so.

As we've said, we can only do so much with what we have, and harbor no unrealistic expectations. We don't detag during nexus, we just play uh...challenge mode to get what points we can while trying to avoid getting run over when you all come in. Whenever it's been close to even numbers when some of your guys are still split up, we do just fine (surprisingly I guess?).

TBH I'm not quite sure how much better we can do in 2:1 or 3:2 full-online situations to not get "[filtered] owned", "rolled", "stomped" or "kicked all over the place". We have established what we can do with even numbers, we're satisfied with that in context of this Vanarch GvG round I think.

This weekend we'll get our first masterwork weapons/armors in the entire guild (hurray!) so in the future we'll aspire to kick around your 30+ with our 20. Maybe you'll be somewhat-whelmed then :)

Quote: GoldTrain on 07/12/2012, 10:59 AM - view


I'm not sure what you were assuming here?? You "kicked us all over the place" in open world pvp because you constantly had 5-6 groups vs our 2-3. I would hope we are "pushovers" at those odds lol... I wish we had the same numbers you did, those would have been epic fights. The fact of the matter is, even though our guild has 60+ members, we typically have the same 15-18 core people on at most times. We have alot of inactive members, and some euro players who don't really get on much anymore. However i'm not sure how you thought that would factor into an even fight.

The first night of nexus, we came at you guys several times even at the severe mismatch and lost. Once we left to do even number pvp with flawless/nerdrage, several of your members started [filtered] talking us in LFG for no reason. You called us out in 10v10 saying you'd stomp us - we accepted and beat you. All we said was good fight after every match.

Yet again the next night, several members started talking [filtered] during nexus. We played tag with you guys all weekend (which was actually pretty fun), but there was plenty of pvp. It may not have gone down how you guys wanted it to, but it still happened. There were times you caught us with your full force and we got wiped...but there were plenty of times you guys left 5-10 man groups behind (or maybe they were scouting), and they got wiped. Why some of your members kept up with the [filtered] talk is beyond me. Our leader pm'ed your leader daily asking for 10v10 and 15v15, and he never got a response after the first night.

I don't think any of us have an issue admitting when we get beat. We even posted the fight in our video where you guys beat us in one of the 10v10 rounds. I'm just not sure why all the [filtered] talk happened - even though it's only a few members, it reflects negatively on your whole team. Those same members bragging about wiping us when its 35 vs 15 also makes no sense...why would you be proud of that?

Anyways, gf again and i'm sure there will be more to come.

The one thing in all of these posts that annoys the hell out of me is the fact that uprising guild leader talked sh*t to us (Flawless) for having low amount of people online but you guys have just all basically said you are in the same situation we're in. Vina posted in this thread going on and on about lacari being a hypocrite but i mean come on, vina was even there when jay was running his mouth. For no reason I might add.

Jay is a bad person.