wait wait wait, "Who is the top guild now that VO and Thirsty don't seem to be the server anymore?"
Was VO even considered the top guild by any stretch? Thirsty wasnt bad and up there but VO?
Anyways, JC is still alive and kicking, but just offers a different type of pvp than VoT. Its more smaller base with group of at max 30 than VoT 50+ raids on average. PvE on JC is still kicking good and with battlegrounds well you get the point.

But you miss the point, you just came over to our forums and said that our server is no where close to you guys and that we should move to VoT. I dont take kind to that. Think about it like nationalism. Your a foreigner and personally I dont want to see our business or customers go to you at all. Itll happen, but when you come to my business and advertise here then I draw the line.

If people want to go to your server they will.

>.> your server forums. That way --------->

Quote: Nineteen on 05/23/2012, 12:35 PM

Lol this may come off bad but who are you? Cause Yes im part of GM but im trying to leave that aside. Im trying to ask questions about what you would do as vanarch and I get responses like im crying? I havent said anything against your guild achievements or questioning them. The closest thing I had said is that I dont think your guild deserves Vanarch for the reasons I listed. Since then you had avoided these questions and done nothing but bash me the entire time.

My questions are questions anyone could ask. But because its from me you think im baiting you. Take a deep breath, not everyone is out to get you. If you want ill get on your teamspeak and have the same conversation and have decent discussion.

And yes Atlas ill be doing it, but the point was what happens if people dont vote. I like the thought, but dont know how many people will care. And if voting in the end doesnt work, I want to know what the plans of Distar are.

Quote: lostinuniverse on 05/23/2012, 11:24 AM - view

Zyd, relax, I dont have a vendetta against you or your guild. Im trying to talk to you guys about your position but you have to try and make me seem like a troll. I dont post on these forums because all thats been talked about is the history of GM and VO. I think both of us really dont care anymore and just want to play Tera without it (at least lets leave it out of this thread) And if i remember the few times I have played against you in Tera we did out play you. Yes it was OBT so a lot has changed. But when im trying to have a legit thread on your own thread, your response is to troll me.

And where are these achievements? This thread has nothing and even then I wouldnt get mad or question it in this thread. Try and stay on track Zyd, Im trying to get legit answers. I guess you have nothing to do with Distar campaign and cant answer my questions.

lol what? k apparently I missed a thread or two about outcry O.o my bad. And i havent seen anything on 1% tax rate in this entire thread. But ok, so far on the survey I see only about 33 people who have voted overall. Ill have to see it by the end of the voting and what not but you should see the problems. Almost no one has voted on it. What happens if people dont vote in outcrys survey? Or even then, how many people will it take before something changes? You figure there about about 800 maybe 1000+ 60s, does 100 people voting changing policies?

And even then you guys havent talked about events, I want to know what you guys would try and do. Your an individual, lets say you can do something what would it be?

I can understand, how I said, this thread has lost its point. Hence why I decided to focus on your campaign than History because both sides will have there opinions and this thread isnt made for that.

Now, What does Public Outcry mean, you need to have some type of idea. This is my problem with your platform, you dont have any clear cut this is what im going to do, and this is what im going to do for you. At least when I look at any other thread on their platform they say ill will be doing pvp all the time and will be having the lowest taxes. If they go away from this, We can go back to that thread and call them out on it. What you guys have done is taken no responsibility in your campaign thread. Now again this isnt me trying to troll you, its what I see. You can easily claim we changed our policy cause of the public outcry. Well where did you get this outcry? Ingame? forums? Are you sure the outcry isnt just people trollin or just bad players who are just being bad.

You need to have some type of personal stance.... Your being what we hate... A real life politician. Your trying to take a middle ground and have no real backbone from what I can see.

Even look at your post about your council member. He is not under my command and he can post what he wants. He is a part of your guild.... He effects your campaign, he is the closest connection (other than Reiko) you can get. And he cant answer a simple question without trollin me? You brought him into the council and let him do what he wants. Your campaign doesnt represent just you. It represents your guild. So you take whatever your guild says about other people too! You have been calling out people for not controlling their members but because Zyd is a council member it is different?

Sorry digressing/rant, the point, your campaign is the same stance as you have to your council members. You can simply claim it wasnt your fault cause you have no control over public outcry or your council members.

Quote: DistarZero on 05/23/2012, 08:36 AM - view

Why am I always the one who never gets told why? How is it false? Distar each post you do is just enforcing the my first comment about a leader. Each time you defend yourself to the bone and how other guilds are wrong. This isnt the sign of a good leader, its the sign of someone who has something to prove. To who?! If Truth conquers all then all the trolling and hate shouldnt matter.

Next, tell me an event that has been runned successful and I will say im wrong. its as simple as that. As it stands right now I heard a lot of things about events in your guild and I havent seen anything from it. And you do say right on the front page if we tell us youll vote for us well give you free [filtered]....

And what about my question to zyd, what are your plans. And why did you let your officers go out and bash another person for a now good reason. Im telling what I feel, the point of forums and the point of this thread is to discuss why you deserve vanarch. I agree, the trolling in this thread has twisted it, so lets bring it back to the point. But go figure when i do a legit question your guild bashes me saying im trollin.

Salty, dont forget they have gone threw some leadership changes. I mean the core of council is still there. Distar, Reiko, Zyd, H2, and Sinnie are still around. But they could have changed since then. A lot could change with their tactics. Plus remember were a small guild. We dont mean much cause we resort to tactics like camping in safe zones. Plus well say they are zerging if we see more than 5 or 10 of them to our numbers.

Quote: lostinuniverse on 05/23/2012, 01:12 AM - view

actually im typing so I really dont have to open my mouth.... but ok, your part of the top brass. What is your guys plan for the providence? But you dont actually write anything about why you would turn it off/on. And would there be a reason why you wouldnt be on at all times? Any events are you guys going to do? Im curious about what you would do after vanarch, specifics.

Quote: lostinuniverse on 05/23/2012, 01:12 AM - view

And i really dont understand how you can learn about your own post...but hey if your busy in game i guess i can understand. I guess ill try harder to type more >.>