DemiDemon's Post History

DemiDemon
0
Neutral
Dang, lots of replies to catch up on o_o Lol.

Phaere, I do not plan on OC'ing, kind of like what BarbeQQ was saying, so the Ivy Bridge will be the choice for me :)
Thank you Ninjaworm for explaining PCIE to me. Since there's both slots for 2.0 and 3.0, I would put my graphics card into the 2.0 one, correct?
Thank you XGrunty for reassuring me about the PCU. (Btw, if a PCU is 80+ Silver, is that worse or better than Platinum?) Also, for now even though I gave myself a budget of $1500, I'm trying to keep it as cheap as possible in order to obtain it faster, so even if what you said Gallus is a beast of a PC, I will be contempt with a lower spec'd computer. All in all, almost anything that I get will be WAY better than what I'm using now. So XGrunty is the one I'm siding with on this case c: (Especially since now I AM trying to build my very own and wouldn't need/prefer sites like ibuypower...maybe I should update that in the original post.)

On a side note, I might also be adding a little extra question to the original topic about what you do AFTER you actually build the computer.

(For future reference, I am a girl, call me she please c: )
Will keep the SSD thing in mind, the Corsair RAM has been duly noted (especially since it'll match~ but I have some doubts due to reviews, though I take those with a grain of salt), aaaand it's (basically) decided, I'll be going for the 3570k! The prospect of being able to upgrade my build just excites the hell out of me, so having that option for future reference would be awesome.

Though I need one thing explained to me. PCIE 3.0? What is that? (And what graphics card would be equipped for it?)
SO, I've finally compiled a custom build from things that I've mostly selected myself, the kits as my bases for what I needed (generally). A couple things were items that some suggested throughout this thread, so hopefully I mixed and matched well. Sadly, at the moment it is more costly than the kits themselves (plus the video card), but it might be worth it. Just maybe. Opinions would be lovely.

HDD (or should I go with an SSD?): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148837
Graphics Card: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130604
Processor: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115072 or http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116504
Motherboard: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131824
Power Supply (as xgrunty has suggested): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371055
Case: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=6430030&csid=_61
Memory(?): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231314
Optical Drive: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827136247

All together: $960 with the i5 2500k/ $970 with the i5 3570k

I believe that is all I need, no? And apparently, according to the calculator that Adler linked, this build would likely use roughly around 450~500W (which slightly worries me with a 550W PSU).

For now that is what I'm looking at without buying a kit. I'm (pretty) sure these prices will fluctuate greatly before I come by the money needed to buy it all, and as that time approaches slowly, I will continually search for cheaper parts (but of course not at the expense of the performance).
Edited by: DemiDemon 11 months ago - Reason: Forgot the price.
I'm currently looking up all the parts separately, but at the moment am focusing on the power supply because I really don't want to risk blowing up my computer or something. Idon'tevenknow. So XGrunty, seeing how you suggested the change in power supplies, how does this one look? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139027
I'm not sure if that is the TX series you were talking about (I see a TX in there but I'm unsure, lol.) but if it's not up to your standards, do you think you could find something better? I'll still be searching, seeing how I still have the majority of my pieces to price to check to find out whether or not I can get them for cheaper.

(And Ninjaworm, I'm trying to stay at a fairly higher wattage because I'd really rather not risk falling short or anything like that. Is there a way to find out/calculate how much my build would use?)
Thank you XGrunty for your inspiring story XD Builds my confidence that much more. I'm actually getting really excited to start on this project. Too bad I have to wait for the money to come rolling in, lol.

On a side note, someone in another forum thread I had commented on before suggested these..Barebones kits? What are ya'lls opinions on them: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2428851&CatId=4910 or
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2406873&CatId=4910
I personally like them, especially the second because I'd like higher...wattage? just in case. They both have the CPU that many of ya'll have been suggesting, and with the one I choose I plan on getting the GTX 560 ti.
(Would this be the appropriate card: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130683 ?)

In total the first combo would cost $837.08 and the second $847.98. Not bad? It may not be the best of the best items, but it sounds decent, as far as I can tell with my limited knowledge (and what knowledge ya'll have shared with me).
Edited by: DemiDemon 11 months ago - Reason: Added another kit and second cost.
Gezodiac and Lpriest, thanks for the heads up, I'll keep those things in mind! Ketsa, thanks for the opinion/personal experience. I've been hearing many good things about the i5, so if it's truly worth the money for the performance I might go with that. Aaand thank you Coshbane for more great reasons why I should DEFINITELY build my own computer :)

Edited by: DemiDemon 11 months ago - Reason: I had a question, but then I realized a couple people had already answered exactly what I was asking XD
ninjaworm on 06/30/2012, 03:19 PM

Not to be a jerk, but I'd take some of this advice with a grain of salt. I'd really love to see a link to an AMD CPU that is comparable to an i5 for $40. I'd also strongly recommend against SLI and Crossfire if Tera is the game you plan on playing most, as Tera does not support them. Asus do make great motherboards though.

Nvidia and AMD both have good cards. The current generation of Nvidia cards is superior, but I don't get the impression that you are planning to pay $500 for your graphics card alone. Older generations have their strengths and weaknesses, but the honest truth is there isn't really any noticeable difference between the two. In some cases one or the other will perform a few fps better than the other, or will score slightly higher on a stress test, but in your day to day use you really won't notice any difference. The most important thing is to research the cards in whatever price range you pick, at some price ranges Nvidia will win out, at others AMD will, at most the differences will be minimal.

There are plenty of cases available that are optimized for air flow, so you don't need to worry about getting any extra fans. You also don't need an aftermarket CPU cooler if you aren't going to overclock, the included heat sink that comes with your CPU will work just fine.

Solid State Drives are a huge performance improvement over HDDs, but they're incredibly expensive. If you can afford it, your PC will start up much more quickly and loading data off the drive will be much quicker, but it won't affect FPS or anything like that.


And here I thought my "sweet baby Jesus" expression was appropriate before, but holy cow, Ninjaworm you just blew my mind! Of course everything as you said should be taken with a grain of salt (sometimes I might get a little too hyper and excited as I'm in the moment, but I fully understand that almost everything on the internet should be taken with a grain of salt. It's the internet.) BUT THAT IS BESIDE THE POINT.

Thank you for putting so much time and care into helping me understand all of this. Because you were so thorough Ninjaworm (and because in the time since I've last posted I watched a video on how to build a computer) almost ALL of my fears of building a computer myself have flown out the window. (It helps too that I can experiment on my Mom's older broken computer that already is partly taken apart.) Now it just feels like a simple challenge/puzzle, one that I would love to take a stab at and solve.

All in all, I've been left mind f*cked by how amazingly thoroughly you (and many others) have been. Never did I expect even one person to give two sh*ts about my computer. FORUMS ARE AMAZING. asfdasl;kdf

Now the only thing left to worry about is actually picking out what parts I want (which you guys have helped me with), making sure that they all fit into the case I choose (which shouldn't be a problem, right?), and getting the money! HA.

Either way, whatever I buy or make will be 1000x better than the laptop I haaaaave *dies of happiness*
CrazedGamer on 06/30/2012, 01:31 PM - view
There's a lil buying guide for you on what to look for.


Oh sweet baby Jesus, CrazedGamer. LOL. There isn't much of anything else to say except thank you so much for being so indepth!! (Literally, I'm kind of at a loss for words..) I'm learning so much from you kind people //crai
Pinupgirl on 06/30/2012, 12:56 PM - view
If you ever intend to ever learn to build your own PCs you have to start somewhere.

Somewhere is now.

If you put if off and chicken out you'll never end up doing it.


Just do it, you'll thank us in 6 months when you can incrementally upgrade your hardware like a pro instead of buying entirely new rigs at twice the cost.

LOL. Your words combined with this song http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROtBbOcdFxo = greatest inspirational speech, EVAR. It just so happened to be playing while I read your comment.

Thanks for the kick in the butt/encouraging words? Idek...

And thank you gumby75 as well. How can you check whether or not it's able to be upgraded?
(And I'll keep what you mentioned about Alienware in mind XD What's your thoughts on the x51? My friend recently got that in order to play TERA and the like, so it's another option I've been thinking about.)
Wow! Thank you everyone for all of the great advice, suggestions, and help!! I did NOT expect this many replies! Lol.

All the little tips as to what's good and what not are really appreciated, I'll keep those things in mind.

As far as building my own computer, I have thought about it, but it seriously poses so many risks imo. Even though it may be "easy" or "not as hard I think it may be", I still am too wary of the many things that could go wrong for me such as placing something incorrectly due to me not knowing what the f*ck it is, or getting the wrong parts in general. While I may be able to buy a kit as some of you have linked, they for some reason confuse me even more so (I get overwhelmed by the plethora of information that is stated about the product...).

Even though I may say this, building my own computer will probably stay in the forefront of my mind for awhile until I actually save enough money for either option (to build or get pre-built). The reason why I ask about what I should get now before I even get the money is because I wanted to guesstimate approximately how much I should generally save up (hopefully cheap is the way to go =u= ).

My best bet (for now) would probably have to be what Ninjaworm suggested!
By the way, no I do not intend to overclock due to the fact that I don't even really know what that is (though I have a vague idea).

Jinkii, your comment has almost convinced me to seriously build one myself, your information cleared my mind of many uncertainties (such as what things are currently good and what are bad) and is so very much appreciated!! Hopefully if I can find any of those middle schoolers I'll be learning soon! :)

Thanks again!