Kinda really hoping they add warrior tanking. I've done multiple NM/HM Runs with warrior tanks they are far superior tanks and should be given the oppertunity to queue as a tank.
The thing they will "add" is total ruin of evasion tanking. Judging from all the videos already released and all the info we already have (thanks Cori !), you won't be really mixing dodging and blocking - as the former always eats stamina first, and roughly 1/3rd of the bar, while the blocking eats only tiny chunk and seems to be damage-independent in cost. Hell, you can't even fall back to dodging if you deplete stamina somewhat for obvious reason - dodge eats stamina first, period.
Essentially what BHS is currently doing, is dumbing warrior gameplay to resemble lancer style and making sure they have no fancy ideas like "maybe I should dodge some hit". And then they will allow queuing.
Of course, you can still go dodgy-style, but that implicitly inhibits block (stamina ....) - how many groups will want that (static or pugs) when you have far superior block in the toolset ?
Enjoy challenging warrior gameplay while it lasts.
So then they might remove a star and it will not be the only 5* class. But...But then warriors can't be all pro and stuff and call the other classes easy mode =(
Nobody forced you to enchant, for w/e reason you want to enchant....Bigger epeen, make end game content easier, or bigger epeen. It's all OPTIONAL.
But it's ok right, since you love to enchant so much, you can play the game for many more months doing the same old. Farming gold...spending it for enchants...rinse and repeat.
Enjoy! O and lets not forget getting masterwork on all of it to with all the adds you want. Have fun.
meh i mistook the stagger animation that the block seems to have on end as a break my bad even still that's a 58 kumas vs a 60 warrior i HIGHLY doubt a 60 vs 60 is going to be blocking power moves and definitely not in hard mode <_><
Really, beyond wishful thinking, there is literally zero reason to assume that a Warrior's block ratings will be inferior to Lancer's block ratings. I understand that Berserker axes have lower block ratings, but Berserkers are not meant to be tanks (where as Warriors and Lancers are).
besides the fact warriors have 3 dodges + vastly superior damage and traverse cut? if a warrior can block just as much as a lancer... why would you EVER bring a lancer? also a zerker could easily block a kumas slam in proper level gear anyways
This post is just by definition(if accurate) for-shadows how "balancing" will be taking place. I used to play a game called Starcraft and I truly believe it is an amazingly balanced game, nobody ever talks about having advantages over another class with the pro's which is where you will see any exploit if it exists.
Why bring that up? It took Blizzard a looooong time to balance it and I believe mmo's have always had balancing issues. But what I hate right now is the REASON these balances are taking place. Warrior tanking is too hard, as one of the GM's noted. Really? To hard? I can already see how warriors already think highly of themselves for picking the "only 5* class." Now there is this huge debate about, ahh lancers want more dps then if warriors get block and many more "balancing" crap.
How about every class can both heal,dps, AND tank with the same stats with simply different gameplay methods. There...balanced. Yes warriors should be able to que as tanks, please do...I play more then just my lancer...so even lancers want this update.
But I guess to sum up this wall-of-text, Balancing will always be in progress, Enmass WILL NOT always get it right, and this effects each person differently. The only question is...can you suck it up and adapt to the new changes? Or does Darwinism(ending your subscription) needs to take effect.
God I hate making a thread like this, but after some resent developments it just seems well timed... Getting to the point, tanking needs to be tweaked so people see Lnc as a viable option for a class to roll, rather then avoid it like the plague. As is tanking simply becomes too repetitive, and long winded. After a point, fights start taking simply too long, and with the battle system such as is, small mistake's start to happen. And at the end you are debating why not re-roll something else. If thing's go south.
What i am getting at, is to automate some of the processes so Lnc doesn't feel like a chore, and is more fun and appealing. While off the top of my head i can recommend anything which would no be flamed to death. I my opinion there's still room for improvement of this class.
I don't know how often I can say this. But if you are one of those lancers that just sit there and block the majority of the time, YES your gonna be bored.
Here is a quick story, I was about to solo a bam where 2 lancers came up and asked me if they wanted to kill it together. I said it's fine I enjoy soloing and it helps me keep/perfect my block times even more. We both started at the EXACT same time with the EXACT same weapons except one of the lancers had a better weapon then me. They killed their bam and mine was at 34%.
Conclusion: If you are a lancer like me, that literally takes every opportunity to attack, your going to have alot more fun, NEVER have to use taunt cause your building threat through attacks, AND sometimes getting hit keeping you on your toes and fighting for your life. I will admit I have turtled before, but I do this when I have so much aggro on me, that right after counter-attack I get auto-knocked down.
Again, don't hate the CLASS, hate the PLAYER.
(I think I am going to use the above line for the rest of my time here on the forums.)
Warriors were designed to be tanks but the skill required is a bit much, especially for a PUG.
We hope to have a solution and allow warriors to join the tank queue by end of summer.
Excuse me? The skill required is a 'bit much', when TERA was touted by your marketing department as being a great new MMO unlike all the others out there for this very reason?
I've tanked all 60 instances as Warrior (both main tank and off-tank when a Lancer ragequits), and the only thing stopping me from doing it in certain instances is the broken flagging that occurs during certain boss fights. (Particularly those during Balder's temple that flag Lancers so that they cannot be targeted by minions or enviromental changes). Otherwise, it takes skill, yes, but if you seriously think it takes too much skill to do anything in this game then you need to L2P.
FFS, when idiots like Knoxxer aren't even confident in the ability of others to surpass their own lack of ability, then those of us who actually know how to play suffer in 2 hour queues waiting for some dip[filtered] Lancer who doesn't even know what he's doing. FFS with this [filtered].
Look another proud warrior, hey here is a cookie for being o so pro with that 5* class of yours. So far I am loving the hate lancers get, its beyond hilarious. But I just can't wait to get this warrior I made to 60, cause so far I can tank just about anything by simply holding the left click button and moving right or left.
I hope I haven't offended any super pro 5* warriors! I just pray they let you guys que as tanks asap, I will be waiting on the hilarious comments. But then again, I guess they need to dumb it down. So therefore, I demand lancers get sweet dps buff and let me que as dps. Maybe I don't feel like tanking sometimes also, wth man! Berserker also needs a taunt with a block damage increase, maybe they want to que as a tank or dps also. Also slayers can evade nicely also, why can't they get a sweet taunt, maybe another evade skill and que up as tank or dps. I swear we are on to something!
Archer, sorc,mystic, and priests can stay where they are.
I can't wait what the developers have in store, but I already know one thing. People will cry about it.
You must be what level 12?
I watched until the end of him doing that 1v3.
I have nothing against the warrior in that fight. But watching the lancer made me want to just quit the game. I mean dear god, did anyone else NOT watch the lancer or was I the only one screaming at the screen? I guess the best part was when he used leash....once.....and didn't even bother using master leash.