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Not to mention Aion didn't always have the gap it has now. It started just like TERA, patching fast upon release and slowly letting the gap get bigger and bigger, giving the players the excuse of unexpected delays, of how hard korean is to translate, etc., until it reached the point it is at now.

Does it sound familiar? TERA is doing exactly the same. I wonder what other coincidences we could find between TERA and Aion... hmmm.
Indeed, the game is full of technical problems, but when I'm capable of going from 112 FPS (as reported by Afterburner) to 41 FPS by just removing the UI that includes an open inventory I know something is clearly wrong with this aspect.

This should've never passed QA. Then again, the old Nexus passed QA so what can we expect?

These INI changes are all just graphical changes. You guys are banging at the wrong door.

While I'm sure it helps to achieve a better performance, none of these changes ever address the real source of the problem which is the over-time degrading UI performance.

If you are one of the affected by the [filtered] UI, simply compare your frame rate without UI, with UI but no inventory / bank open and then with inventory open. You'll notice a radical difference between all three modes which point that, as the OP says, the problem is on the way all these little icons and their overlays are being rendered.

As far as I know there's no exposed options that one can tweak to change how the UI works and it's all in hands of BHS to fix this nonsense which, judging from the last year of suffering through it, will do nothing about it.

In fact, the last words with got from one of the clowns at EME was "We reported it but it's no longer a priority for BHS".
In a battleground (not in a fray, just for example waiting at a pyre) I get about 20 to 30 fps with the UI on and when removed I get 80 fps, which happens to be the default cap on the config files unless you modify them. That's how much a simple UI is destroying the game.

As I said before, some people don't experience this old-as-dirt bug, but to others it simply ruins the experience. It's very possible that you are one of the lucky few that don't really experience it.

I understand you are probably afraid of moderation acting against you if you post a client modification, but feel free to send it to me via PM and I'll do the posting so everyone can test your changes. I have absolutely no fear of getting banned.
Haha, even their names directly reveal their intentions. This is hilarious, it shows the incompetence of those running the game.

Or perhaps it's not incompetence but apathy.
@Chyna: I agree that it would generate more money in the sense that it would keep more players that otherwise quit because of the problem, however it may not generate enough money to pay for the resources needed to actually fix the issue. It's very possible that a complete rehaul of the UI internals is required to fully resolve the issue.

@3ric: Your screenshot shows an empty area with no action going on and minimal UI overload. You are alone in BT, not even moving, there's no monsters to fight or even players in your group that would add into the UI overload.

Go to a battleground and show us screenshots from there, that's a much better test than what you are doing. Alternatively, if you prefer, send me the modifications you've done please and I'll do the testing on the areas I'm aware destroy the performance on a system fully affected by this horrible bug.

An extra word, however: not everyone seems to have the same UI problems and some seem to not really get any extra performance from removing the UI itself. There's likely a second reason why TERA performs so poorly apart from the blatantly obvious UI problems that have been here since pre release.
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Kamster on 05/18/2013, 12:54 PM - view
No offense, but it looks like you kind of deserved to get scammed. lol.

Next time, buy some items that will sell and won't devalue (like vouchers), sell them, and use that to buy the item with gold from the broker. Let someone else gamble with their money.


No one deserves to be scammed.

These sales tactics prey on the mental instability of the costumers that play these games or on their inexperience. They are obscure (they don't tell you the odds of obtaining any of the items or the system behind the resolution of such obtention) and bring gambling close to people that should never ever be exposed to it.

In a civilized society exploiting mental weaknesses to make money should be shunned, not celebrated.

EME should be ashamed at this.
Sadly, this is all irrelevant.

Now, this person perhaps has indeed pinpointed the problem with the UI, but think about it for a minute: would BHS, a company who employs the same people that programed and designed the UI for the game, be unable to find why it fails?

They can do it, debugging and problem finding is part of the skill set of any developer and it's very likely they know the exact cause why this happens.

What you need to ask yourselves is not why they can't find the fix, it's why they don't bother fixing it. And the answer is simple: it's not cost effective. The effort required for the solution, whatever it may be, probably has a high cost that when compared to the relevance of the problem in monetary terms comes out as expensive.

Now, obviously many of us would think "but it's a game braking bug... it needs to be fixed!" and you'd be right, if you were making games. Neither BHS nor EME are making a game anymore, they are making a money machine and it's not in their list of priorities fixing or changing anything that isn't going to affect their wallet directly.

TL;DR: This bug isn't fixed because it doesn't cause EME/BHS any monetary harm to keep it and fixing it would incur on costs and no monetary gain. Better to spend money on the next ecchi costume for elins.
@ Kultra and the rest of the blind:

The game has degraded and it has nothing to do with the fact they keep going on with these scamming tactics that should be illegal and controlled in the same way as gambling is. It has to do with the fact that they've shifted the game into a money making machine and only a money making machine.

Think about the amount of critical bugs we keep dragging from pre release: bad hit boxes, bad synching both on pve and pvp, horrible UI that gets worse and worse every time they add some new skill or whatever, poor performance even on today's top machines, etc.

And think about the lack of significant content updates: a single battleground that came months ago, Queen fight being the only relevant end game to date, two "new" raids that are nothing but a reskin of a fight that came almost on korean release out of which one is pretty much a worthless joke -the 10 man version-, CoF which is nothing but two areas, one which is a time waster and another that's nothing but a circle and an excuse to fight a new BAM type... the list just goes on.

Let's not forget to mention the raping of the game's lore into oblivion via these ridiculous skins they keep adding, the half-assed butchery of the english version of the storyline (hello, no Queen cutscene for months!), the removal of the prologue (why?), the failure that is open world pvp and vanarchy, the incredibly long delays between patches compared to the mother land (as if they were patching fast to begin with...), the horrible communication with the players nowadays compared to pre release... I could go on forever.

The game has degraded and yet it's making more money than it ever had.

TERA is pretty much a cash machine now and you know what it reminds me of? Yes, exactly, Aion. What a [filtered] coincidence, eh?
That's how it works. Slowly push the envelope so that players don't notice the changes unless they look back at how it all started.

Only those who played through the start of this game understand how much TERA has degraded in only a year, but there's not as many of us anymore. TERA is based on a revolving playerbase now and as players come and go they only witness small bits of degradation, which seem acceptable in their eyes.

You can see this happening in the forums, where there's less and less complains and more acceptance, even more irrational white-knighting.

I would honestly not care about this crap if it wasn't because it affects every online game, not just TERA.