I really don't see why everyone whines about this so much. As a player with both a priest and a mystic I say people who rely on healing or buffs to survive in this game just don't know how to play it. If you are actually making your healer spend all their MP to keep you alive you need more situational awareness and you need to learn to friggin dodge. a Mystic shouldn't actually need higher heals because if you're actually about to die you need to learn to look for a damn ball and not use them when you're barely hurt. The balances they added were not to make it so you can be lazier it was to make them viable for more aspects than the game has currently. When I started on my priest my main rule was I focused the tank and if he/she was hard pressed I would easily let a DPS die to get them back into shape. The DPS may whine about it but if a DPS dies who cares if the tank dies you pretty much wipe. DPS needs to learn that a healer isn't crutch they are there for worst case scenario not for you to let the boss face bash you into oblivion while you try to Leeroy it into submission.

Quote: bheise225 on 06/20/2012, 05:30 PM - view

Odd thing is we proved we could organize and conquer end game and sadly there were only 3-4 guilds even doing nexus in large numbers at first as of last week only two of those guilds were still with us and one of those was falling in numbers fast in participation. Finally it got to the point where we had 15 people showing up for nexus if we were lucky and most of those were in one guild. Sure it's all fine and good guilds should support themselves and all but really the main problem was most of the end game guilds were losing faith in the server as a whole and had started to stop coming to things. We went from actually being able to run a few stage 3 nexus to only running stages 1-2 and rarely a 3 then only 1-2 and in the end we couldnt even do stage 2 because we couldn't get enough dps and tanks to show up. The problem is we were all trying to actually do end game content to gain rep and all for nexus to get gear and such and we were all struggling to get to friendly if that while dragonfall has multiple people in the trusted range because they have enough people hitting endgame to just zerg the damn nexus to death. Thats a huge difference. We gave it time even when other people decided to jump ship earlier due to some of the earliest miniscule signs of all this. We tried to get people involved and rally the server together and for a short time it worked. It worked for about three weeks then dropped lower than it ever has been. You say we should face the challenge and we did. Where were the lot of you when all of this was going on? We sure could have used you when it mattered. Evidently it didn't matter enough to you until it was over and done with though.

Taxes in any zone below 5% is a tax cut period. If you just don't want to fund a guild thats fine but you're paying more. If you want to spend more it's up to you but to me that's just being stubborn. In the end no Vanarch gets a lot out of taxes. It wouldn't even pay for the next Vanarch election in the highest district.

Quote: NightVeyl on 05/31/2012, 12:04 AM - view Considering your guild is # 6 in total size I think we can safely assume you are not leader of a small guild anymore. This person is asking is tough for any guild to match up to and I'm still not sure ANY guild on this server meets his requirements. Also to RuQu he said 40+ players playing consistently and consistently to me means pretty much 40+ people logged on all the time not just 40+ active players in a guild. If it's 40+ active players then I'd say the list widens quite a bit but if its what it sounds like to me then I'm not too sure a guild on any server can easily fit this requirement. As for Night... stop making 1 line posts on other peoples threads just to bring more people on your pity party or to try to derail the thread into a "Daph bashes on small guild's" tirade. You don't like Daph. We get it already. Please move on.

They do have history she used to be in Lethality. I wont go into all the events that transpired because even if I did she has already painted herself to be an angel in all aspects which I've never seen a situation like this where all blame was only on one party but I digress. The fact is for while there neither would put the past behind them and now Daph has but she refuses to. More often than not she has been a voice of contention regardless of if it is needed or not. I've tried many times to get them both to drop it and I have only succeeded in getting Daph to let it go.

And again and again in this post you continue to prove the point I just made. Even if he did all the things you have said he did he has not once said anything in this thread that says what you are talking about. He has made it known he just isnt sure everyone is preparing like they should. You say he doesn't know anything about the vanarchy system and that no one does but obviously you haven't been keeping up with some of the released info because quite a bit he is talking about was actually confirmed by EME and we have had several guilds talking about some of these very things. Also last I checked you still weren't the GL of all these other guilds out there so until you are I would request you stop speaking as if you know everything about them since they have their own GLs and can speak for themselves. All Daph can do is speak about personal concerns he has about this. He and every GL who has read the released info about the system knows you get one district and one district only. No one guild or even ten guilds can run everything and sad to say we still don't have a candidate for all areas we actually need one for as one district was never selected. This is already going to make things harder for the first cycle. We also have one guild who has (as of the time of this post) lost eligibility for Vanarch by dropiong below guild level 3. We are pretty sure of the strength of a few guilds now in the last week because they have been pushing more into the late game content and making themselves visible now and this is a good thing. Daph's message was at least heard by some people and we are feeling quite a bit better about this. Words don't speak nearly as loud as actions do and these guilds have made themselves heard far more than you have so far and at least theirs was positive.

Well since you insist on bickering and pointing fingers at everything we will just see. Did you ever once consider maybe that he was trying to get other guilds to get their collective asses in gear and get some people up to actually run this stuff? You speak like there are just tons of people from all these guilds up ready to run this stuff and you know what I see more than anything? People from the same 5 guilds. Caprica, Lethality, Fairy Tail, Viral, Pirates. You rarely see many people from the others guilds in this range. That makes me just a little bit concerned because EVERYONE needs to be prepared for this. Daph knows that there is no way a few guilds can run everything because you can only hold one district at a time. So why you keep on pointing fingers like hes just putting you down all the time I will never get. He never once said you guys will never get there he never once said you guys were not worth voting for. All he said was that currently the lack of 58-60's from several of the other guilds is something to be concerned about. Other people seem to have figured out the meaning behind this post but everytime you see him type something you assume it has to be an attack. Five guilds can't carry an entire server. Everyone that has a Vanarch needs to step up and get in gear to make sure everyone's experience is going to be a good one. If you can't put aside your damn egos and realize this then and only then do you become truly worthless as a Vanarch.

Quote: Amrethir on 05/21/2012, 01:00 PM - view

Where to begin... where to begin... First off you seem to be overly bitter about the whole thing for some reason and it makes it hard for me to take you seriously but I'll try.

1. If they get elected I'd say a small bit of pride is just natural. I mean sure anything can be overdone but is it really wrong if they do show off that mount a bit? Don't the players that win the Super Bowl like to show off the Lombardi after a win? Sure they do. Is it wrong? Nope they are just happy about an accomplishment and its human nature to want to show that and that is kinda part of the point. Now if that is the ONLY thing they will do then I'd say the worst part is we get to deal with them til the next election and then guess what? We probably wont have to anymore so is there really any point in complaining about it? Not that I see.

2. Recruiting is one of the only ways for a starting guild to actually get established. If you just start screening people from the start and don't actually recruit you'll end up with a guild right about the same size as when you started. Most of the top guilds don't even recruit anymore because now that they are established the members come to them. Again this is really not even a good point.

3. Competition is only part of this whole system. Everyone wants everyone else to succeed as a vanarch once they get elected because in the end its EVERYONE that suffers if they don't. I'd hate to be running Balder's and have to port out to another district just to use NPC's that SHOULD be available because we had a failhard Vanarch there. It is in everyones best interest that they succeed and even though we could suffer it out til they get replaced isn't it better that we don't suffer at all?

4. Last I checked there were over 30 guilds that actually qualified as best as I could tell, and this is definately enough to have a Vanarch in each and every available district and then some. Posting in this thread is a good way for each Vanarch candidate to introduce themselves to the server if they so desire. If you don't want to get to know the Vanarch candidates then why even read it? It seems obvious that you were at least a little bit interested in it yourself.

My god people. We only care about making sure the game runs smoothly and people aren't having to district hop just to get the required support for a dungeon. Really it requires he himself has run Ktera? Our political system isn't even going to be exactly like KTera. EME has been very open about the fact they want to give us a new experience so all the people whining KTera this and KTera that with the political system are blowing smoke.

Sure Daph is going to want to promote himself as a Vanarch it's what each and every single one of you have been doing as well (The ones running) so is it really that bad a thing? He hasn't once actually bashed a guild in the discussions about this. He has made very general comments to get people thinking because many seem to want to keep things on the backburner with leveling and all and when it comes right down to it we really don't know the extent to what dedication will be required to keep things running properly. We can only go by what has been offered to us as information already. Sure maybe he is being over cautious but I'd rather err on the side of caution than to throw caution to the wind entirely.

Can we please keep the bickering and childishness out of this topic and stick to what is actually going to help make this server successful?

Quote: mavet on 05/17/2012, 01:20 PM - view

A. Sure it may have been the wrong way to say it but nonetheless Tsikura was correct. You didn't read what was placed before you. It isn't the games fault or the translations fault or even the developers fault. In this case it would be your fault for not reading everything in the character creation. Not rude just a fact.

B. This is correct and this is not the first game to make a character customization that allows you to preview future armor looks on your character. You didn't know this I guess but it still doesn't make it misleading.

C. It is not misleading because it stated very plainly that it was a preview. It is not their fault that you did not read the heading of the section you were in. Misleading would be saying "Choose your starting armor" and not "Preview your character in various gear". You misread or didn't even read. Again no ones fault but your own.

D. You asked and people answered and that is how you learn. Had you not gone further and accused the game of being misleading when it was just a misunderstanding on your part then players would not have gotten defensive. Sure it could have been said a different way but to many you were being rude in calling the game misleading when it was clearly not the games fault you thought the way you did.