Dengar deserves a lot more respect for what he does for the community. Don't listen to these trolls Dengar, keep up the good fight.
So, instead of answering my questions, you resort to the belittling tactic. Nice. This is a really nice debate, totally open to serious discussion. For everyone else who might want to join in on this "debate", be sure to give the right answers or else people might disagree with you and that means you are automatically wrong. Peace.
Fatwa, I am happy to debate here (I thought you were trying to play a moderator with questions) but apparently this is a loaded question from a biased based question seeking only one kind of answer and if there is an answer you (the question asker) doesn't like it is just hostility from you.
You are trying to ask me to stop referring to the situation with Rite yet you are pulling stuff from my PM to him about our situation in your replies. So what is it?
You are the one generalizing statements by not using specifics when specifics matter the most. What in your opinion is a small guild? What in your opinion is a large guild? Is all the guilds on the server with 1 person in it, factor guilds to you? Does a guild that can only bring out 2 or 3 people to a fight, a factor guild to you?
It is all about perspective and makes this question a no wrong or right answer kind of question. So, I answered the question from my perspective of what a small guild is, a guild like Rites, if you think a small guild is something different, great! I am glad we played this game of semantics.
You are trying to ask me to stop referring to the situation with Rite yet you are pulling stuff from my PM to him about our situation in your replies. So what is it?
You are the one generalizing statements by not using specifics when specifics matter the most. What in your opinion is a small guild? What in your opinion is a large guild? Is all the guilds on the server with 1 person in it, factor guilds to you? Does a guild that can only bring out 2 or 3 people to a fight, a factor guild to you?
It is all about perspective and makes this question a no wrong or right answer kind of question. So, I answered the question from my perspective of what a small guild is, a guild like Rites, if you think a small guild is something different, great! I am glad we played this game of semantics.
Fatwa on 05/25/2012, 03:32 PM - view
Cool reaction there. This game requires two things in PvP, bodies, and skill. When Rite brings out 3 people to fight a guild war, I don't care how skilled those players are, they aren't going to stand up to a guild who can muster up 15 or so people to face them. They will have to resort to either allying up to boost their numbers, resort to dirty tactics, or run. I don't consider a 15 man guild, huge, and I don't consider it a zerg either. You can go around and saying words like small guild, big guild, zerg guild, but you have your own numbers in your head. There is a limit when it comes to reality. If you were talking to me about 15 vs 30, there is a much better chance at winning with a coordinated skilled group of 15 going up against a zerg of 30, but to say a group of 3 has any chance against a real pvp situation against a guild that can bring even just a little bit more than that, face to face on the battlefield, is far fetched at best.
I have been in coordinated pvp groups in other MMOs that required target calling, this game is far more hectic then a target based MMO and requires far more skill than that, making it even harder for smaller guilds to stand up to larger ones who are equally as coordinated. No one likes to get zerged, but when your guild is big and you have people who come out to fight, you can't blame them.
If you think having a bigger guild equals they are zerg no matter what, then we differ on opinion even moreso. I don't consider my guild big at all, but to Rite, I am a zerg...
Sarv on 05/25/2012, 03:20 PMRite, I am not ashamed of anything I said to you and don't care if you want to make anything I said in private to you to the public like a coward. You do kill lowbies, you run from fights, you hide behind your halfway roleplay, and you don't know when to let things go. My PM to you was in response to public attacks and call outs towards me and my newly forged guild, over a guild war that was little more than a small skirmish that you ran from when things got serious. You talk a lot of hype.
I promote real PvP, not farming a bridge outside lumbertown one shotting people or trying to ask to duel level 55s when you are 60 with an enchanted daybreaker as some sort of reasonable request.
Anyways, my thoughts on smaller guilds are that in a game with PvP, you are going to be at a disadvantage. Small guilds are fine if they can work with other smaller guilds and can make alliances, otherwise, I think in an open world pvp, you will either be in it for 1) the thrill of fighting win or lose or 2) or to run and fight your battles another day or 3) avoid conflict all-together. Sadly, that is the reality of smaller guilds. I think my own guild is rather small, smaller than the larger guilds and we have to deal with these issues too.
Regardless, Rite, you are another topic and I already wished you luck on running for vanarch. As for what I said to you in private, it still stands, you aren't worth my time, you just don't get it. Just because you go around and fail at recruiting level 60s, because that is what you set your recruitment standards too, is your own problem. Smaller guilds who want to grow and make poor decisions and remain small is a leadership issue not a community one.
Hey, guess what, games aren't being designed solely around who can amass the most numbers. Perhaps one day you'll update your MMO mindset to fit the current offerings, rather than focus on ZOMG ZERG SIEGE WOOT mindsets of yesterday's games.
Small guilds can, will be, and are effective in TERA, without having to rely on alliances for numbers. Additionally, organized PvP in TERA, thus far, has supported small guilds to a much larger degree than sizable guilds.
I'd highly suggest that you take the time to learn your PvP environment before attempting to speak about it.
Cool reaction there. This game requires two things in PvP, bodies, and skill. When Rite brings out 3 people to fight a guild war, I don't care how skilled those players are, they aren't going to stand up to a guild who can muster up 15 or so people to face them. They will have to resort to either allying up to boost their numbers, resort to dirty tactics, or run. I don't consider a 15 man guild, huge, and I don't consider it a zerg either. You can go around and saying words like small guild, big guild, zerg guild, but you have your own numbers in your head. There is a limit when it comes to reality. If you were talking to me about 15 vs 30, there is a much better chance at winning with a coordinated skilled group of 15 going up against a zerg of 30, but to say a group of 3 has any chance against a real pvp situation against a guild that can bring even just a little bit more than that, face to face on the battlefield, is far fetched at best.
I have been in coordinated pvp groups in other MMOs that required target calling, this game is far more hectic then a target based MMO and requires far more skill than that, making it even harder for smaller guilds to stand up to larger ones who are equally as coordinated. No one likes to get zerged, but when your guild is big and you have people who come out to fight, you can't blame them.
If you think having a bigger guild equals they are zerg no matter what, then we differ on opinion even moreso. I don't consider my guild big at all, but to Rite, I am a zerg...
Rite, I am not ashamed of anything I said to you and don't care if you want to make anything I said in private to you to the public like a coward. You do kill lowbies, you run from fights, you hide behind your halfway roleplay, and you don't know when to let things go. My PM to you was in response to public attacks and call outs towards me and my newly forged guild, over a guild war that was little more than a small skirmish that you ran from when things got serious. You talk a lot of hype.
I promote real PvP, not farming a bridge outside lumbertown one shotting people or trying to ask to duel level 55s when you are 60 with an enchanted daybreaker as some sort of reasonable request.
Anyways, my thoughts on smaller guilds are that in a game with PvP, you are going to be at a disadvantage. Small guilds are fine if they can work with other smaller guilds and can make alliances, otherwise, I think in an open world pvp, you will either be in it for 1) the thrill of fighting win or lose or 2) or to run and fight your battles another day or 3) avoid conflict all-together. Sadly, that is the reality of smaller guilds. I think my own guild is rather small, smaller than the larger guilds and we have to deal with these issues too.
Regardless, Rite, you are another topic and I already wished you luck on running for vanarch. As for what I said to you in private, it still stands, you aren't worth my time, you just don't get it. Just because you go around and fail at recruiting level 60s, because that is what you set your recruitment standards too, is your own problem. Smaller guilds who want to grow and make poor decisions and remain small is a leadership issue not a community one.
I promote real PvP, not farming a bridge outside lumbertown one shotting people or trying to ask to duel level 55s when you are 60 with an enchanted daybreaker as some sort of reasonable request.
Anyways, my thoughts on smaller guilds are that in a game with PvP, you are going to be at a disadvantage. Small guilds are fine if they can work with other smaller guilds and can make alliances, otherwise, I think in an open world pvp, you will either be in it for 1) the thrill of fighting win or lose or 2) or to run and fight your battles another day or 3) avoid conflict all-together. Sadly, that is the reality of smaller guilds. I think my own guild is rather small, smaller than the larger guilds and we have to deal with these issues too.
Regardless, Rite, you are another topic and I already wished you luck on running for vanarch. As for what I said to you in private, it still stands, you aren't worth my time, you just don't get it. Just because you go around and fail at recruiting level 60s, because that is what you set your recruitment standards too, is your own problem. Smaller guilds who want to grow and make poor decisions and remain small is a leadership issue not a community one.
With voting starting soon, just wanted to wish all the other candidates luck in the election. Regardless the outcome for myself, I will be fully supporting the future vanarchs on the community website.
Update:
- Added new forums for future vanarchs to use for their regions and master forums for exarchs whenever they get chosen.
- Dengar planning a vanarch candidate tournament
- The High Five to host a vanarch rap battle and possibly a vanarch ventrillo debate event
- We are still looking for an experienced and trusted Site Administrator. Previous website administration is heavily sought after.
All this and more supported by the Basilisk Crag community website and ventrillo. If you got any events you wish to be hosted by the website and staff, please message me here or for a faster response, on the community website itself.
Thanks,
-Sarvoth
- Added new forums for future vanarchs to use for their regions and master forums for exarchs whenever they get chosen.
- Dengar planning a vanarch candidate tournament
- The High Five to host a vanarch rap battle and possibly a vanarch ventrillo debate event
- We are still looking for an experienced and trusted Site Administrator. Previous website administration is heavily sought after.
All this and more supported by the Basilisk Crag community website and ventrillo. If you got any events you wish to be hosted by the website and staff, please message me here or for a faster response, on the community website itself.
Thanks,
-Sarvoth
I am not a ginger :( I just got blood in my hair.
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