Work on your English and grammar. Realize that there are improvements coming. Stop the constant doom and gloom of your posts. Poor players are poor players, pretty certain you fall into this category. Get off the forums. I'm posting this from my hot tub, done with this thread some people are beyond help. <hint-hint>
Warriors are certainly the closest you will find in Tera to a Rogue or Assassin. It might not seem like it at the begining, but later on you really start resembling a stun-lock Rogue.
A lot of different attacks and combinations to play with for a variety of scenarios:
1. Stuns
2. Debuffs
3. Backstab
4. Poison
5. Evasion
6. Solid sustained damage
7. Ability to tank/off-tank if you want to spice things up
Really I don't see anything else for you.
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A lot of different attacks and combinations to play with for a variety of scenarios:
1. Stuns
2. Debuffs
3. Backstab
4. Poison
5. Evasion
6. Solid sustained damage
7. Ability to tank/off-tank if you want to spice things up
Really I don't see anything else for you.
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robertchou91 on 04/26/2012, 10:22 PM - view
Extremely poor arguement.
Lets say you actually know the fight and therefor time your attacks intermixing TS/Cycone/Combo/Etc based upon the average timing between CC/Leashes/Etc to optimize dps? What a concept.
Forcing a poor example of a poor player into one specific scenario is proof that you more forum warrior and less of a fact warrior. I prefer facts over random scenarios.
You could go off the deep end and just say that since the boss is leashing that Warrior's or Lancer's string of abilities were interrupted and forced to restart their combo, BUT some are on cooldown! So now they have to wait 3-6 seconds to begin the string again!
Learn the fight, adapt accordingly, profit.
I'll see you at 60 and won't bother with the less then adequate players who cry wolf when it is their skill causing the problem, not the game. Anything else the devs can toy with. Last I checked EQ, WoW, DaoC and so on all had top/mid and bottom classes at different times in their life cycles.
@Wyvernz- So lets say the you are charging and running toward the artifact boss in the balder's temple and you charge for about a good 3-4 sec. Then the boss leashes you and canceled your charge. Now you have to charge another good 3+ seconds and land that attack. That is 6 seconds of lost time you could of dealt dps. You just spent twice the amount of time charging to unleash 1 thunderstrike. What of the other classes except archers? They can still constantly use skills and dps the boss without being forced to cancel one of their skills.
Extremely poor arguement.
Lets say you actually know the fight and therefor time your attacks intermixing TS/Cycone/Combo/Etc based upon the average timing between CC/Leashes/Etc to optimize dps? What a concept.
Forcing a poor example of a poor player into one specific scenario is proof that you more forum warrior and less of a fact warrior. I prefer facts over random scenarios.
You could go off the deep end and just say that since the boss is leashing that Warrior's or Lancer's string of abilities were interrupted and forced to restart their combo, BUT some are on cooldown! So now they have to wait 3-6 seconds to begin the string again!
Learn the fight, adapt accordingly, profit.
I'll see you at 60 and won't bother with the less then adequate players who cry wolf when it is their skill causing the problem, not the game. Anything else the devs can toy with. Last I checked EQ, WoW, DaoC and so on all had top/mid and bottom classes at different times in their life cycles.
This thread is still going!?
Speculation pros ftw!
See you folks at 60 and I'll be tearing up Hard Modes.
Speculation pros ftw!
See you folks at 60 and I'll be tearing up Hard Modes.
I'll be sticking with my Zerker for sure. However I am a tanking addict and it looks like a Lancer is in my future with a Sorc for good measure.
VERY fail, especially given their temporary status. Cosmetic items are a hard enough sell for weapons when anyone can get them. Making them temporary almost dooms them to only be purchased by the hardcore and/or gulible.
I hope EnMasse reconsiders this one. Although seeing these skins will be right up there with the goofballs in WoW trying to show off their sparkle-ponies.
I hope EnMasse reconsiders this one. Although seeing these skins will be right up there with the goofballs in WoW trying to show off their sparkle-ponies.
phoenixfire82 on 04/26/2012, 05:23 PM - view
PS - relying on Koreans forums for solid, air-tight facts like yours is about as silly as using the WoW forums to prove that X class is terribad and will never be chosen for Y raid.
The amount of dis-information on the forums makes me wish the devs would wipe them at launch. Simply to expunge the rubbish we keep seeing over and over.
Air. Tight. Just try and prove me wrong. It can't be done. It's like trying to prove unicorns don't exist. Eating my curds and whey. Zerkers are useless and it's confirmed by ktera that mystics are closing in on their dps, that's how bad they are. Keep researching.
PS - relying on Koreans forums for solid, air-tight facts like yours is about as silly as using the WoW forums to prove that X class is terribad and will never be chosen for Y raid.
The amount of dis-information on the forums makes me wish the devs would wipe them at launch. Simply to expunge the rubbish we keep seeing over and over.
phoenixfire82 on 04/26/2012, 01:24 PM - view
Yeah those don't really prove anything. I've done enough betas with Koreans/Japanese/etc. that trying to use them as an example of good or bad is ridiculous. I've seen Koreans pull off crap in PvE and PvP that my friends and I almost couldn't believe. We've also seen Koreans who couldn't play even the simplest role well and yet somehow were keeping pace with us in levels and gear just by sinking in twice as many hours.
May as well link re-runs of the Smurfs and try the same arguements, they are just as accurate.
Level 60 warrior video (the lowest of all dps, supposedly)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQ9zhvgOeJA
Level 60 berserker video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2j6fu4PdzI
Notice that when zerker isn't critting from the rear, the dps is complete rubbish, like 20-30k every 5-10 seconds (soooo bad).
Tell me how many more times dps that warrior is doing over that zerker.
Yeah those don't really prove anything. I've done enough betas with Koreans/Japanese/etc. that trying to use them as an example of good or bad is ridiculous. I've seen Koreans pull off crap in PvE and PvP that my friends and I almost couldn't believe. We've also seen Koreans who couldn't play even the simplest role well and yet somehow were keeping pace with us in levels and gear just by sinking in twice as many hours.
May as well link re-runs of the Smurfs and try the same arguements, they are just as accurate.
robertchou91 on 04/26/2012, 08:39 PM - view
I don't buy it, regardless of time on target. Especially since even though a Warrior/Slayer go back to combos immediately following a backstab, the Zerker makes up that dmg and then some with one charged hit. So it should balance out unless the person is simply bad at staying on the boss after leashes. KBs, etc.
Not to mention the faster filler attacks that all Zerkers have to once again cose that dmg vs. time on target.
This is no different then EQ Dragons or certain WoW bosses where mechanics forced you to run out from one thing or another, leashed, cc'd, etc. Few in WoW could play things like old school feral druids or enhancement shamans well and yet many prevailed and went on to be top dps.
Zerkers have a higher skill cap then the 3 stars EnMasse gave them at end game. So I fully expect the average player, let alone the average MMO player, to fail.
Slayers and warriosr have backstab. They can instantly get back into battle compare to zerkers. They dodge an attack and can continue to attack the same dps. What about zerker on those 2 dungeons? THey block an attack. THey have to recharge thunderstrike.
Like i said zerker are not bad. They are just at a disadvantage compare to other classes.
I don't buy it, regardless of time on target. Especially since even though a Warrior/Slayer go back to combos immediately following a backstab, the Zerker makes up that dmg and then some with one charged hit. So it should balance out unless the person is simply bad at staying on the boss after leashes. KBs, etc.
Not to mention the faster filler attacks that all Zerkers have to once again cose that dmg vs. time on target.
This is no different then EQ Dragons or certain WoW bosses where mechanics forced you to run out from one thing or another, leashed, cc'd, etc. Few in WoW could play things like old school feral druids or enhancement shamans well and yet many prevailed and went on to be top dps.
Zerkers have a higher skill cap then the 3 stars EnMasse gave them at end game. So I fully expect the average player, let alone the average MMO player, to fail.