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Polarium on 04/24/2012, 01:48 AM - view
Gallus on 04/24/2012, 01:17 AM
Polarium on 04/24/2012, 12:16 AM
All right, a well known issue: GPU operates at 30-50% and fps are low, around 25-35. Once GPU goes 90% busy, you get 60-70 FPS. Note, that Battlefield 3 and Mass Effect 3, for instance, keep your GPU 90% busy all the time. So its the game`s end.

EnMasse, not sure if you`re aware of this problem, but it definitely needs your attention and some performance tweaking. Average computer, i5 2400 + 560 Ti + 8Gb 1333 Ram should run this game like butter at all conditions, so make it happen.


Your system is lacking. 2400 is solid enough, but +$30 on a 2500k would have netted you an extra +1000mhz, maybe even more, on OCing power.

560ti is a very weak card, Most newer games don't even run smooth unless you have 2x of them in SLI.

For example, 1920 x 1080 resolution using 560ti solo benchmarks

Crysis 28fps

BF3 27 fps

Crysis 2 DX11 +high res textures 31fps

Aliens VS Predator 30fps

Sorry but 30FPS is hardly playable imo, and considering MMOs have can have a lot going on at the same time (Huge GvG, tons of people and NPCs on screen in towns, raids, etc) You're going to get huge dips in performance,

To consider your gaming rig "Good enough for butter smooth FPS in all conditions" is extremely laughable unless you're running some really low resolution.


This is the post from someone with little to no knowledge on the subject. You don`t even bother to read the first post.
Facts: 560 ti on my rig shows 60-70+ fps in BF3 in HD resolution on maxed out settings + FXAA injector for sharper textures and antialiasing, ME3 on max goes 70-80 most of the time. TERA shows 60-70+ on max but manages to drop down GPU performance/fps at certain periods of time to 25-35 fps . You care to explain by what miracle you get 27 fps on a 560 ti in BF3? I can`t imagine what outdated CPU one must have to get such low numbers..
And in the future avoid telling people that 560 Ti is a weak card for modern games, this is laughable indeed.



Lol not sure where he is getting his info but alot of games do not run sli or crossfire that good.

http://www.geforce.com/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-gtx-560ti/performance/Battlefield-3-NVIDIA-GeForce-GTX-560-Ti-OPS

In-Game Performance


Select a game to see how the GeForce GTX 560 Ti performs using Optimal Playable Settings (OPS). OPS are in-game settings that maximize graphics quality while maintaining 30 frames per second or more.


1680x10501920x10802560x1600

Texture QualityUltraUltraUltra

Antialiasing Deferred4x MSAA4x MSAAOff

Ambient OcclusionHBAOHBAOSSAO

Terrain QualityUltraUltraUltra

Mesh QualityUltraUltraUltra

Shadow QualityUltraUltraUltra

Effects QualityUltraUltraUltra

Motion BlurOnOffOff

Terrain DecorationUltraUltraUltra

Antialiasing PostHighHighHigh

Anisotropic Filter16x16x16x

Average FPS 43.77 40.98 41.79

Hardware configuration: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 560 Ti, Intel Core i7 970 (3207Mhz), 2 Gb RAM
Software configuration: NVIDIA 280.26 Driver, Battlefield 3, Windows 7 Enterprise 64-bit
I have nothing against Tera , but please refrain from applying the concept of " easy mode " to " western " or Americans . As an American I don`t like the stereotype.


This is my post on another forum regarding the same issue that was discussed before this thread developed . For the most part , people that want to play a game that takes some "effort " are generally self challenging individuals that should not be classified as hard core or no lifers by those who do not want to feel like their under pressure or obligated to keep the same pace , both should respect each others style of gaming .


It is pointless to gauge challenge in a game because in real life everyone has a different threshold of tolerance for what they deem as to difficult or to easy . That being said it is quite evident that games have become over simplified and much easier over the years in general .


FYI , with all of the talk about time sinks and no lifers none of that is really valid because in a hard grinder people that out level everyone else are having 3 different people level the same character in 8 hour shifts , you will never out level them no matter how much time you spend unemployed in the basement , most people never realize that this kind of account sharing is going on .



http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/game/477/view/forums/thread/347830/Professional-MMOer.html





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I think I am beginning to realize the over simplification of the mmorpg concept myself at this point

I never could get in to wow after playing other games before that , I played EQ 2 for many years on Nagafen pvp server and still think it was one of the best games on the market , the items in that game are incredible as are the raid dungeons. I fear that what I am witnessing now is a dumbing down of the whole genre in general which is unfortunate , nice graphics with no substance , all show and no go seems to be the new immersive norm .

As an example , several years ago I played Hero Online which falls hard in to the " Asian Grinder" catagory and at times it felt more like a job rather than an adventure . However , be it as it was it required "effort " to progress in the game . The mobs were not easy to kill , if you died you would lose experience and go backward and anyone could kill you at anytime during the game except for in safe areas , this was quite discouraging for many people .



The crafting of rare items costed a fortune and had a very low success rate while the materials were hard to obtain drops that fetched a high price on the market , not many players had the best gear or weapons . You had to keep up with all of this in order to survive against hostile players and hard to kill monsters . Once they began allowing RMT the game pretty much was never the same , like what happened in Archlord also anyone with enough money irl could rule the game .



The other thing is there was no such thing as a pre built character , you earned a few skill points and stat points each time you leveled up and it was up to you to add the right amount of str or int or dexterity etc. Same with the skill points , the decision making process was entirely your own and if you screwed it up you were stuck with a gimped build period which would result in poor performance , they charged $30 to re allocate stat points if you gimped your character . Your stat points for your build had a huge affect on how your character could perform and once they were gone they were gone .

What this did though was give you the ability to be creative , there were endless ways you could allocate your stat points and if you did a good job using your own ideas you could be proud of your succes at making a viable character .



Also there were very few quests in the entire game , leveling was done through killing mobs at a very slow pace.Although all of this could seem tedious and difficult , it was a game where you had to earn the mastery , it wasn`t handed to you and if you failed no one was there to hold your hand or give you a ticket for a free ride through the themepark .



Since then I have played many many games , Darkfall seemed ok but still there were all these people crying about the skill grind and how hard it was . I guess I just haven`t noticed how developers seem to be making games that take no effort at all , everyone is a winner so we can all feel good about ourselves , but really where are the objectives ? Where is the competition ? Where is the challenge?

They don`t have the skill to compete and progress so they ask for games that require little or no effort , I mean why not just start the adventure with a pre leveled fully geared fully skilled character that has a full bank account and an auto group finder so that all they have to do is sit back and watch the game play itself .

If I don`t have time for something that requires it , thats my problem not anyone elses . It`s ridicules for people to expect developers to take the "game" out of a game because they feel that they should be entitled to " easily obtainable rewards " that require a limited amount of effort .

The PSU is not enough for that card .

560 TI Minimum System Power Requirement (W) 500 W
http://www.geforce.com/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-gtx-560ti/specifications

The IT guy who said he was overloading on game start up was correct .
PerfectCruz on 04/18/2012, 11:01 PM - view
Zaltar on 04/18/2012, 10:57 PM
Lol WOW ,

Played for considerable length of time :

Hero Online from open beta -grinder - likely where the term grind originated lol
9 Dragons from open beta -grinder
2 Moons closed and open beta -grinder
Everquest 2 Nagafen server - many years = all time favorite mmo
Silk Road -grinder
Shaiya -grinder -yawnfest - not bad RVR
Cabal - not bad - I liked my shielder .
Kingdom Heros = Chinese Historical RVR
Archlord - RMT unbalanced pvp
12 Sky -very good before Aeria version - nice pvp - very unique
Darkfall - most hard core pvp - skill grind is harsh - full loot including what your wearing.
Divine Souls - unique arena style pvp with mouse combo skills = fun
Fury ( really miss Fury ) went under right after I purchased my copy - pure pvp
Heros of the 3 Kingdoms - Chinese Historical RVR
Grenado Espada SG - incredible 3 character control ( sword of the new world )
Land of Chaos = ( best MOBA of all time ) 3 D seamless maps with objectives.
S.U.N - Soul of the ultimate nation - unique and enjoyable game - easy grind

Also tried a lot of other games including WOW .


heeey i also played granado espada SG and SUN those games were awesome





My Wiz from Grenado Espada - loved flying her around .
Edited by: Zaltar about 1 year ago
Lol WOW ,

Played for considerable length of time :

Hero Online from open beta -grinder - likely where the term grind originated lol
9 Dragons from open beta -grinder
2 Moons closed and open beta -grinder
Everquest 2 Nagafen server - many years = all time favorite mmo
Silk Road -grinder
Shaiya -grinder -yawnfest - not bad RVR
Cabal - not bad - I liked my shielder .
Kingdom Heros = Chinese Historical RVR
Archlord - RMT unbalanced pvp
12 Sky -very good before Aeria version - nice pvp - very unique
Darkfall - most hard core pvp - skill grind is harsh - full loot including what your wearing.
Divine Souls - unique arena style pvp with mouse combo skills = fun
Fury ( really miss Fury ) went under right after I purchased my copy - pure pvp
Heros of the 3 Kingdoms - Chinese Historical RVR
Grenado Espada SG - incredible 3 character control ( sword of the new world )
Land of Chaos = ( best MOBA of all time ) 3 D seamless maps with objectives.
S.U.N - Soul of the ultimate nation - unique and enjoyable game - easy grind

Also tried a lot of other games including WOW .
He wasn`t really what I had in mind .

But , not to many classes in this game is the only thing I consider to be a shortcoming atm . Other than that it looks great .
Lol ,

Well there actually is a chef class in Grenado Espada the SG version of Sword of The New World , in fact I had him as one of my characters . His name is Panfilo and he specializes in fire skills lol .

http://ge.iahgames.com/Images/News/food03.jpg
Edited by: Zaltar about 1 year ago
Hi ,

Tera would do quite well to add a few more classes . Please consider this as constructive input rather than criticism .

Overall looks very nice.

Played more than 22 mmorpg`s over the years , seeing guilds and players here I recognize from way back , looks like people are coming from all over for this one .

See you in game and good luck to all .
Take care .