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The berserker was 4 levels above me. I also have played a berserker, but only to the 20s. The counter I spoke of was one of endless, but sticks to my mind because it was one of the first lopsided battles I have had that I was victorious in, the environment was working against me, I was attacked by a player 4 levels above me, was able to kite him for nearly 2 min, not just kite, but plenty of dodging and such. In tab target game that simply could not have happened. If he was in range of me in a tab target game, I simply could not have dodged out of the way, he would have attacked, I would have gotten hit. As far as him being a berserker 4 levels above me with me down to 10% and using his class as an excuse why he lost is plain pathetic. I know that if I was him, I would have won hands down. This sort of encounter has happened time and time again, but that particular encounter made me fully realize the potential of this combat system
Another good point to make here is this. The decisions you make in pvp, far outweigh the char you play. I have a level 60 priest and have several occasions of fighting 2 people and coming out on top, you can gear and glyph a priest to do some decent damage, and have several dodge options… I seen someone say that all you need to do is aim in the general direction to hit a target. Healing works this way, bo no attack skill does, you pretty much need be on target. I know that I can usual outmaneuver casters, and most archers. However, some are good at targeting, they anticipate your next move and are damn good at it, but some ranged char cant touch me, there targeting totally sucks. Its why so many people chose melee type, but the pvp ranged master are out there, I have seen them, have fought them … There is so much skill involved is crazy, especially for any caster class including the priests. Never played a healing class in an MMO during pvp that had to move around to survive, or atleast not much, you usually just need sit there, heal, cast dps spell, heal, repeat. This fighting system is so much better, any hardcore pvper knows this, unless you don’t know how to take advantage of it. Maybe you just like tab targeting system, or you like it because its less stressful because you can just count on your dodge skill, or armor skill, or counter skill to do the job and just sit there like an old man mashing keys.
I could see how someone might come to the same conclusion as you have regarding group pve. It really can feel like the average MMO tab targeting system. However, you can solo a BAM regardless of class, and do it nude with nothing but know how and eye-hand coordination. It is for sure theoretically possible. I know I have soloed a BAM at same level to about 50% without being hit, name one single MMO where you can kill some boss like char with pure eye-hand skill alone?. You can also use this same philosophy in pvp. It is possible to kill someone unscathed regardless of that char class, and to some extent their level. I have seen it time and time again. Some people truly sick at pvp in this game and there is nothing they can do about it because they simply do not have good eye hand coordination.
I would say my best point to make and question would be this. Is there not always something better you could have done in a pvp situation as far as dodging, blocking, running, aiming, healing, throwing bombs, reacting to a knockdown fast enough, deciding what attack skill to use based on the length of char animation, timing that attack just perfect, using proper dispels and such. I can’t tell you how many times I was beat because I mistimed a skill, did not heal at right time, attacked at the wrong time. I always come out knowing that I could have done something different in pvp. Can’t blame armor, can’t blame class… it’s almost all about skill man. How can you not see that? It’s the reason the game will stay alive.
As far as you wanting me to upload some pvp vids, come on man, I don’t do that. Instead why don’t you just give me a tell in game, so we can meat up, so I can bash you in the head:) would that be enough proof for you?
Needed to add this, forget to give server name and char name. names "Gankers" I play on valley of titans.
Another good point to make here is this. The decisions you make in pvp, far outweigh the char you play. I have a level 60 priest and have several occasions of fighting 2 people and coming out on top, you can gear and glyph a priest to do some decent damage, and have several dodge options… I seen someone say that all you need to do is aim in the general direction to hit a target. Healing works this way, bo no attack skill does, you pretty much need be on target. I know that I can usual outmaneuver casters, and most archers. However, some are good at targeting, they anticipate your next move and are damn good at it, but some ranged char cant touch me, there targeting totally sucks. Its why so many people chose melee type, but the pvp ranged master are out there, I have seen them, have fought them … There is so much skill involved is crazy, especially for any caster class including the priests. Never played a healing class in an MMO during pvp that had to move around to survive, or atleast not much, you usually just need sit there, heal, cast dps spell, heal, repeat. This fighting system is so much better, any hardcore pvper knows this, unless you don’t know how to take advantage of it. Maybe you just like tab targeting system, or you like it because its less stressful because you can just count on your dodge skill, or armor skill, or counter skill to do the job and just sit there like an old man mashing keys.
I could see how someone might come to the same conclusion as you have regarding group pve. It really can feel like the average MMO tab targeting system. However, you can solo a BAM regardless of class, and do it nude with nothing but know how and eye-hand coordination. It is for sure theoretically possible. I know I have soloed a BAM at same level to about 50% without being hit, name one single MMO where you can kill some boss like char with pure eye-hand skill alone?. You can also use this same philosophy in pvp. It is possible to kill someone unscathed regardless of that char class, and to some extent their level. I have seen it time and time again. Some people truly sick at pvp in this game and there is nothing they can do about it because they simply do not have good eye hand coordination.
I would say my best point to make and question would be this. Is there not always something better you could have done in a pvp situation as far as dodging, blocking, running, aiming, healing, throwing bombs, reacting to a knockdown fast enough, deciding what attack skill to use based on the length of char animation, timing that attack just perfect, using proper dispels and such. I can’t tell you how many times I was beat because I mistimed a skill, did not heal at right time, attacked at the wrong time. I always come out knowing that I could have done something different in pvp. Can’t blame armor, can’t blame class… it’s almost all about skill man. How can you not see that? It’s the reason the game will stay alive.
As far as you wanting me to upload some pvp vids, come on man, I don’t do that. Instead why don’t you just give me a tell in game, so we can meat up, so I can bash you in the head:) would that be enough proof for you?
Needed to add this, forget to give server name and char name. names "Gankers" I play on valley of titans.
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11 months ago
- Reason: Forgot char name.
Malamasala on 07/26/2012, 01:04 AM - view
LOL I don't know why, but just so funny to me!!! Just so much truth to it, LOL...
They removed them for a couple of stupid reasons.
1) You could set up RMT messages on them, so to battle gold sellers, they removed a whole system
2) A handful (Like 30 people) thought it was too much work involved in looking around shops for items and wanted to only use AH (yea, they wouldn't even use normal npc stores because it would involve walking around!)
3) People were too retarded to use the settings to turn off pet shops when they didn't want to see them.
So EME, believing the whole continent of America is filled with idiots, adapted the game to fit idiots.
LOL I don't know why, but just so funny to me!!! Just so much truth to it, LOL...
Skillmare on 07/25/2012, 08:18 AM - view
You are a complete fool. I was kiting him because he was the aggressor, we are both melee classes. Your answer being absolutely? Tell me Einstein , what tab target MMO has the ability to freely dodge attacks based on timing? Since when is the berserkers class the weakest damage class? Is in not one of the highest? Is just more burst damage! Its not a lancer were talking about, and he was 4 levels above me at the time and as you know, levels in this game make a big difference. I also have two level 60s in the game, so please save me the lecture of what it’s like at 60. It’s not an illusion dude! This game is more skill based then any MMO I have ever played and I have played many. You have many more options during pvp, so many that it feels open ended. To be good at pvp, your strategy must be fluid, constantly on toes, constantly changing. You can set up chain skills and expect got get them off unless your opponent just sits there. I leveled up a priest, and pvp with a priest is no exception. Need to constantly move, need to aim well, need to dodge well, and change as your opponent changes. Ranged pvp is totally different in this game because not only do you need to kite, but aim, dodge, stun, slow. Its crazy skill and I have seen a few archers that seem unstoppable regardless of what class you are.
Now as far as tab targeting MMOs being competitive? YES.but totally different, as in there is just one, or two valuable cookie cutter char that you must go with, usually with a strict chain skill set that you can always get off in order because you simply cant miss once you execute. It might be blocked, or dodged based on the type of gear or glyphs or whatever the case may be, then its purely numbers from there, a role of the dice. If your so adamant about this combat system being the same as other MMOs, then dude, you must totally suck at PvP. However, seeing how your saying that the berserker class has lowest damage in the game, and other strange missconceptions about the game, I would be willing to bet my left nut that you have hardly played, let alone have a level 60. I mean your just being a total fool, I’m also willing to bet that 90% of them out there playing agrees. I mean, come on man, you’re a level 60?... (sighs), just something not right with you. Maybe your just trolling, or just total fool.
poolman on 07/25/2012, 06:33 AMAbsolutely. In fact, it happens regularly. The reason you succeeded was because he was a melee class with slow abilities. Berserkers have 0 ranged attacks, so what you are describing is essentially that you were... gasp... kiting a 0 ranged class. That can happen in any game. Any game at all. I imagine you're thinking, "but in tab targeting games all you have to do is get close and it's guaranteed hits." You're right, but this is also taken into account with various abilities, whether it's class or ranged snares and roots.My question for you is, could this have happened in a tab targeting game? Hell no.
I won't lie, for melee it makes things a little more interesting, but overall that's because there's also fewer attacks for melee compared to other games.
I will also say that the player you killed -- the worst PVP damage class in the game, easily -- was bad. Name a popular game and I'll come up with a similar scenario using a variety of classes and their abilities to counter and escape combat to regen and finish the job.
EDIT: Just wanted to restate that it's the illusion of the game to make you feel this way, at first. I, too, was like you. But once you hit level 60, you experience the combat, get used to its controls, you will not be doing this sort of thing. (Except to berserkers, ironically enough....) You won't be able to kite a warrior or another slayer, for instance.
You are a complete fool. I was kiting him because he was the aggressor, we are both melee classes. Your answer being absolutely? Tell me Einstein , what tab target MMO has the ability to freely dodge attacks based on timing? Since when is the berserkers class the weakest damage class? Is in not one of the highest? Is just more burst damage! Its not a lancer were talking about, and he was 4 levels above me at the time and as you know, levels in this game make a big difference. I also have two level 60s in the game, so please save me the lecture of what it’s like at 60. It’s not an illusion dude! This game is more skill based then any MMO I have ever played and I have played many. You have many more options during pvp, so many that it feels open ended. To be good at pvp, your strategy must be fluid, constantly on toes, constantly changing. You can set up chain skills and expect got get them off unless your opponent just sits there. I leveled up a priest, and pvp with a priest is no exception. Need to constantly move, need to aim well, need to dodge well, and change as your opponent changes. Ranged pvp is totally different in this game because not only do you need to kite, but aim, dodge, stun, slow. Its crazy skill and I have seen a few archers that seem unstoppable regardless of what class you are.
Now as far as tab targeting MMOs being competitive? YES.but totally different, as in there is just one, or two valuable cookie cutter char that you must go with, usually with a strict chain skill set that you can always get off in order because you simply cant miss once you execute. It might be blocked, or dodged based on the type of gear or glyphs or whatever the case may be, then its purely numbers from there, a role of the dice. If your so adamant about this combat system being the same as other MMOs, then dude, you must totally suck at PvP. However, seeing how your saying that the berserker class has lowest damage in the game, and other strange missconceptions about the game, I would be willing to bet my left nut that you have hardly played, let alone have a level 60. I mean your just being a total fool, I’m also willing to bet that 90% of them out there playing agrees. I mean, come on man, you’re a level 60?... (sighs), just something not right with you. Maybe your just trolling, or just total fool.
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11 months ago
I been playing MMORPGs since Ultima Online first came out, and I gravitate towards pvp in every MMO that I play. You saying that Tara’s aiming system is nearly the same as conventional tab targeting system as far as skill is concerned is totally wrong and here is a real example as to why.
I wanted a challenge so I decided to play a perma red, slayer, named him gankers and level him up to 60 like that. Its been one hell of a challenge, but in doing so, I got a real experience of how pvp is. One of my most memorable open world pvp experiences was at level 24, while I was leveling up, solo questing I was aggroing a mob of 4 at a time, and just had done so when this level 28 Berserker who seen that I was marked as outlaw decided to attack me. He came at me aggressively, nearly killed me right away, but I was quick enough to use a Healing Elixir before biting the dust, he was still all over me, I managed to stay alive long enough to get out of his way, I had about 10% health left and that was after the elixir had taken up its full effects.
At this point, I knew I had little chance to win most of that was based on my past experiences with tab targeting combat systems, but I was still alive, so I did my best to be my best in this fight. By the time I was far enough away from him to effectively kite him, I had 45 sec left on the cool down of my Healing Elixir. I knew that if I was able to kite him long enough, I could heal up, so I kited him for 45 sec, all the while I have agro on a mob, and new spawns of new mobs were popping up and since he was chasing, and my movements were in the lead, I aggroed everything. He was getting frustrated because I was timing his attacks, this frustration was apparent because he was overly aggressive, using everything he had under the hood to kill me, everything but patience.
While I was kiting him, I was also learning how to time him and as most of you know, slayers have a speed advantage, and his animations were horribly slow. I was able to get a few hits on him unscathed, got his health down to less then half, by this time, my health was at about 80%. I decided to attack him full force, we knocked each other down, and was about even on health now, at about 10% each. The difference was that I was able to use Retaliate faster then he could and because of his aggression, he was aggroing the mobs now. I attacked him and killed him. Was one of the most memorable and rewarding pvp experiences I have ever had.
My question for you is, could this have happened in a tab targeting game? Hell no. Tab targeting can take some skill, but that skill is mostly directed into skill rotation, counters and such thus limiting your actual combat skill. However, this game takes so much skill, that when you walk away from battle dead or alive; you know there was always something you could have done better in the fight. Its dam near like chess.
For me this is the most exciting MMORPG to date because I’m smart, love to compete and finally have the advantage in most combat situations.
I wanted a challenge so I decided to play a perma red, slayer, named him gankers and level him up to 60 like that. Its been one hell of a challenge, but in doing so, I got a real experience of how pvp is. One of my most memorable open world pvp experiences was at level 24, while I was leveling up, solo questing I was aggroing a mob of 4 at a time, and just had done so when this level 28 Berserker who seen that I was marked as outlaw decided to attack me. He came at me aggressively, nearly killed me right away, but I was quick enough to use a Healing Elixir before biting the dust, he was still all over me, I managed to stay alive long enough to get out of his way, I had about 10% health left and that was after the elixir had taken up its full effects.
At this point, I knew I had little chance to win most of that was based on my past experiences with tab targeting combat systems, but I was still alive, so I did my best to be my best in this fight. By the time I was far enough away from him to effectively kite him, I had 45 sec left on the cool down of my Healing Elixir. I knew that if I was able to kite him long enough, I could heal up, so I kited him for 45 sec, all the while I have agro on a mob, and new spawns of new mobs were popping up and since he was chasing, and my movements were in the lead, I aggroed everything. He was getting frustrated because I was timing his attacks, this frustration was apparent because he was overly aggressive, using everything he had under the hood to kill me, everything but patience.
While I was kiting him, I was also learning how to time him and as most of you know, slayers have a speed advantage, and his animations were horribly slow. I was able to get a few hits on him unscathed, got his health down to less then half, by this time, my health was at about 80%. I decided to attack him full force, we knocked each other down, and was about even on health now, at about 10% each. The difference was that I was able to use Retaliate faster then he could and because of his aggression, he was aggroing the mobs now. I attacked him and killed him. Was one of the most memorable and rewarding pvp experiences I have ever had.
My question for you is, could this have happened in a tab targeting game? Hell no. Tab targeting can take some skill, but that skill is mostly directed into skill rotation, counters and such thus limiting your actual combat skill. However, this game takes so much skill, that when you walk away from battle dead or alive; you know there was always something you could have done better in the fight. Its dam near like chess.
For me this is the most exciting MMORPG to date because I’m smart, love to compete and finally have the advantage in most combat situations.
Guyon_delsho on 07/18/2012, 02:58 PM - view
You know what, I don’t even make it that far. To be honest, I have not a clue what there even saying. I see question marked guy, I click him and anything related to clicking within the NPCs interface panel thing as rapidly as I can. Prob more then needed out of frustration, just “click click click, click click click, click click’ curse some, open map serch for new question marked NPC, jump on horse, and repeat.
The best part is when the Quest dialog has your response as "but the guy is right there!" or when the next NPC says "You know I can hear you from here, right?" to the first npc.
They are accutely aware of it, it's more like a running joke.
You know what, I don’t even make it that far. To be honest, I have not a clue what there even saying. I see question marked guy, I click him and anything related to clicking within the NPCs interface panel thing as rapidly as I can. Prob more then needed out of frustration, just “click click click, click click click, click click’ curse some, open map serch for new question marked NPC, jump on horse, and repeat.
mavet on 07/18/2012, 02:56 PM - view
They have not locked any of mine yet, but did notice them locking yours. I think that it was the topic that bothered them (chronoscrolls). They prob have instruction to lock any thread related to that subject because to many people crying about it and such. Don’t think there so strict about what how we say things though.
I need to remember these are TERA forums when I post.
They have not locked any of mine yet, but did notice them locking yours. I think that it was the topic that bothered them (chronoscrolls). They prob have instruction to lock any thread related to that subject because to many people crying about it and such. Don’t think there so strict about what how we say things though.
linofer on 07/18/2012, 02:53 PM - view
Been around since UO, just never seen it that bad and so repetitive.
is this your first MMO?
Been around since UO, just never seen it that bad and so repetitive.
I love the game, so don't get me wrong here.
I cannot stand going to a question marked NPC, talk to him, just to go to another question marked NPC standing right next to him who sends you to another question marked NPC that’s a few blocks away, and then that NPC sends you back to the second question marked guy, that sends you to the original to finally complete the quest(maybe). It bothers me something fierce, I start cussing to myself, to the computer, to the wind. Just really bothers me man. Why do they do this goofy [filtered]? Please change it!
I cannot stand going to a question marked NPC, talk to him, just to go to another question marked NPC standing right next to him who sends you to another question marked NPC that’s a few blocks away, and then that NPC sends you back to the second question marked guy, that sends you to the original to finally complete the quest(maybe). It bothers me something fierce, I start cussing to myself, to the computer, to the wind. Just really bothers me man. Why do they do this goofy [filtered]? Please change it!
Edited by: poolman
11 months ago
This post bothers me. You got an MMO that’s letting people transfer for FREE and you’re crying about it? So what that people want to transfer to other servers, who are you to say they can’t, or to even suggest it? You know what, they should make a law that forces people to stay in Ohio all because Texas has to many people(sighs). A game gives us a little freedom and we need to pacify babies like this? Well you know what, I’m all out of pacifiers so… “w, we, weah, wheaaa†cry it all out you little cry baby :)